Did Floyd Mayweather use PED's? (simple answer for an OG member please)

[Dosumpthin]

You saw the rule, no retroactive Tue for home visit IVs. No way out. We were done days ago, you just decided to forget all you'd learned

YOURE PRETTY ******.


http://www.usada.org/resources/publi...-and-policies/

"1. GENERAL PRINCIPLES
The United States Anti-Doping Agency (“USADA”) Policy for The****utic Use Exemptions (“USADA TUE Policy”) is
based upon the relevant provisions of the World Anti-Doping Code (the “Code”) and the provisions of the World Anti-
Doping Agency (“WADA”) International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (“ISTUE”) which are incorporated
herein as if fully set forth. This Policy is informed by the following general principles which provide the context for the
USADA TUE Policy."


AND WHAT DOES THE ISTUE SAY ABOUT RETROACTIVE TUES???


"Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or
opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an
application for the TUE prior to Sample collection"

This means an athlete can obtain a Tue retroactively - EVEN THOUGH A TUE MAY BE REQUIRED IN ADVANCE - simply because there was not enough time for the application and approval to be processed.



But I knew you were a ****** pact@rd that didn't read ANY of the OFFICIAL WADA CODE.


so back to my initial response.


If the USADA Tue is against the rules - why doesn't WADA - who has the AUTHORITY AND JURIDICTION TO DO SO - simply REVERSE the tue????

You lose pact@rd.

[ADP02]

I challenge any poster here to explain the logic behind Mayweather paying off USADA in order to abuse PEDs when keeping the following in mind:

A. Why mask with an IV if USADA was paid off?
B. Why would it be necessary to apply for a TUE if USADA was paid off?
C. Why leave a paper trail by applying for a TUE if USADA was paid off?
D. Why would USADA reveal the IV use if USADA was paid off?
E. Why did USADA fail to tip him off about when they would come if they were paid off? Could have turned their head to it altogether, which would be much safer.
F. Why would USADA take a partial sample from before the IV which would make it more difficult to pass if he was dirty if USADA was paid off?
G. Did he also pay off the WADA accredited labs in case aforementioned tests came back positive? Labs that would report any failed test directly to WADA as a part of their agreement to being WADA accredited.
H. Did he pay off WADA too, just in case?
I. How can anyone explain the other 20 drug tests he passed without the IV without speculation, knowing they were subjected to CIR testing and the Athlete Biological Passport.


So he paid them off so that he could cheat....and he paid them off to basically not help him to cheat in any way???? For an astute businessman, seems like a terrible waste of money, no?

Its all freaking crazy simple.

Lance Armstrong paid off plenty of people including the UCI.
Lance Armstrong passed 100s of drug tests.
Similar to Floyd, had su****ious results.
Yet Lance still avoided the urine/blood collector,
still got caught with PEDs,
still had to get a retroactive prescription to cover up his tracks(PEDS)
still had to mask his PEDs,
Still delayed getting tested.

Now change the above name from Lance Armstrong to Floyd Mayweather.

[Dosumpthin]

Its all freaking crazy simple.

Lance Armstrong paid off plenty of people including the UCI.
Lance Armstrong passed 100s of drug tests.
Similar to Floyd, had su****ious results.
Yet Lance still avoided the urine/blood collector,
still got caught with PEDs,
still had to get a retroactive prescription to cover up his tracks(PEDS)
still had to mask his PEDs,
Still delayed getting tested.

Now change the above name from Lance Armstrong to Floyd Mayweather.

So how did lance Armstrong alter his athlete biological passport?

[tangalog2200]

Hi, I've been away for a while and have not been able to follow all the debates and articles and theories about Floyd and Pac,etc. using PED's...

I rarely make threads here but,

I was having a conversation with some friends about this topic, and would appreciate a simple answer with a brief detail.

Did Floyd Mayweather use Peformance Enhancing Drugs?

yes.....

iv, tue, usada and nsac playing sweet music like a symphony orchestra...

[WesternChamp]

alts is going crazy

[ADP02]

So how did lance Armstrong alter his athlete biological passport?

WADA has justified the inclusion of IV infusions on the Prohibited List given the intent of some athletes to manipulate their plasma volume levels in order to mask the use of a prohibited substance and or to distort the values in the Athlete Biological Passport.

[Lester Tutor]

WADA has justified the inclusion of IV infusions on the Prohibited List given the intent of some athletes to manipulate their plasma volume levels in order to mask the use of a prohibited substance and or to distort the values in the Athlete Biological Passport.

hence, "some."

lol

[ADP02]

hence, "some = Floyd Mayweather and Lance Armstrong"

lol

correct, some .... I listed a few since you have a problem with saying who the some are.

[ADP02]

YOURE PRETTY ******.


http://www.usada.org/resources/publi...-and-policies/

"1. GENERAL PRINCIPLES
The United States Anti-Doping Agency (“USADA”) Policy for The****utic Use Exemptions (“USADA TUE Policy”) is
based upon the relevant provisions of the World Anti-Doping Code (the “Code”) and the provisions of the World Anti-
Doping Agency (“WADA”) International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (“ISTUE”) which are incorporated
herein as if fully set forth. This Policy is informed by the following general principles which provide the context for the
USADA TUE Policy."


AND WHAT DOES THE ISTUE SAY ABOUT RETROACTIVE TUES???


"Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or
opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an
application for the TUE prior to Sample collection"

This means an athlete can obtain a Tue retroactively - EVEN THOUGH A TUE MAY BE REQUIRED IN ADVANCE - simply because there was not enough time for the application and approval to be processed.



But I knew you were a ****** pact@rd that didn't read ANY of the OFFICIAL WADA CODE.


so back to my initial response.


If the USADA Tue is against the rules - why doesn't WADA - who has the AUTHORITY AND JURIDICTION TO DO SO - simply REVERSE the tue????

You lose pact@rd.

Not quite right. Just to simply rehydrate is NOT a valid reason unless it meets the exceptional criteria. Floyd was mildly dehydrated, and that too is in question, so an IV was not warranted.

"WADA has clarified that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport."


As for your silly remark about WADA reversing the approval.

They do not need to review every case. They only need to review when requested due to a verdict that went against the athlete (not every case).
Secondly, go look at the Russia scandal. Lots of red flags but it took many years to get to the bottom of that one. So its NOT as simple as you are making it be.
Finally, with a cover up, it would be done in a way that it would not be as simple as just reviewing the documentation and they are caught. That is silly talk.

[ADP02]

Then there is the fact he is affiliated with a bunch of PED cheats then we have the fact he did the illegal IV but that means nothing he clean doe... right...
Imagine If Pacquiao did what Mayweather did lol you wouldn't be defending him like you did with Floyd, just admit it your hero is a PED cheat.

Great point!

SugarKaineHook makes videos of Manny even though he has nothing concrete. Imagine it was Manny who had admitted to using a prohibited method without prior approval? SugarKaineHook would be smiling from ear to ear and be making a video a day about Manny's IV scandal ..... but too bad, so sad .... it was Floyd who went and did that. So no video making from SugarKaineHook