Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Eyes Andre Ward - If Both Keep Winning

[aboutfkntime]

Again retorting to name-calling.. I am not an alt you delusional dumbfk.. I have been visiting boxing scene since 2005-2006 but I never registered, just because I joined a few months back you call me an alt!? Great logic Einstein.. You should be a real ****** Mr.Nuthugger.. Keep trolling..

Oh here is the link to your drivel, you **** spewing cūnt
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...=714287&page=3

Oh, right..... I just saw an ignorant tard valiantly defending his pacifist girlfriend..... I must have jumped to conclusions, sorry about that.

[aboutfkntime]

Come on, hype man. The Ring title exists & it tells you lineage of champions. It doesn't matter what The Ring is...what matters is that their title is considered the lineal title. In boxing circles, what are they going to tell you about lineal titles? They'll tell you they matter because the lineal title tells us who's the guy to beat in order to establish a boxer's status in a division. That's the top guy. Whoever has the lineal title is considered the champion of the division. Back when Pep was fighting there was only 2 boxing organizations...today there's 4 plus the lineal title (5 if you consider the IBO one). People might not like this, but that's modern day boxing. The lineal title means something because it denotes among 4 possible champions who the top guy is. Even if Stevenson is considered the #2 guy at LHW, he still holds the lineal title. As long as he has that, he can continue to claim that he's the LHW champion. Stevenson is a LHW champion until he loses those titles. That's the hard truth.

You're trying to argue from opinion ("Hi, my name is aboutfkntime & I say the lineal doesn't matter because it's my opinion that this guy holding the lineal title isn't even the top guy in his division. Lineal titles are irrelevant because only I can determine the best boxer in a division despite there usually being 4 champions per...forget facts & listen to me"). The lineal title is a fact. If you argue against it, you're no boxing fan. Go back to work, hype man.

you fanboy tards are absolute morons.....

you literally had no idea what The Ring was, or what lineage is..... until I schooled you up..... and yet here you are here anyway, blindly defending your pacifist girlfriend LMAO

For the last time kid..... Adonis Stevenson is the lineal LHW champ, but he is not the best fighter in his division..... Canelo Alvarez is the lineal middleweight champ, but HE IS NOT EVEN A MIDDLEWEIGHT, YOU DUMBASS

The lineal champ since Hopkins, was not the best guy in his division, and I have already explained why.

If you clearly have no idea what you are talking about, why make stuff up, you silly fanboy?

" Back when Pep was fighting there was only 2 boxing organizations "

There were not, you dumbass..... you just made that up LMAOOOOOOOO

First, you made up that Pep had won 2 lineal titles, then you made up that there were 2 official sanctioning bodies back when he was fighting.

Why are you running around making stuff up, you fanboy tard?

Which brings me back to my 2 original (UNANSWERED) questions.....

1) when you created an alt account, and decided to use it to defend your pacifist girlfriend..... did you really think it was gonna be easy?

2) just how badly did your original account get ****d? LMAO

[JUNIABOY]

you fanboy tards are absolute morons.....

you literally had no idea what The Ring was, or what lineage is..... until I schooled you up..... and yet here you are here anyway, blindly defending your pacifist girlfriend LMAO

For the last time kid..... Adonis Stevenson is the lineal LHW champ, but he is not the best fighter in his division..... Canelo Alvarez is the lineal middleweight champ, but HE IS NOT EVEN A MIDDLEWEIGHT, YOU DUMBASS

The lineal champ since Hopkins, was not the best guy in his division, and I have already explained why.

If you clearly have no idea what you are talking about, why make stuff up, you silly fanboy?

" Back when Pep was fighting there was only 2 boxing organizations "

There were not, you dumbass..... you just made that up LMAOOOOOOOO

First, you made up that Pep had won 2 lineal titles, then you made up that there were 2 official sanctioning bodies back when he was fighting.

Why are you running around making stuff up, you fanboy tard?

Which brings me back to my 2 original (UNANSWERED) questions.....

1) when you created an alt account, and decided to use it to defend your pacifist girlfriend..... did you really think it was gonna be easy?

2) just how badly did your original account get ****d? LMAO

Ohhhhh-kay hype man, so a champion isn't a champion unless you give approval that they're the best in that division? Ok hype man. Delusions of grandeur doesn't even begin to describe your ego, hype man. The lineal title means that's the guy who beat THE guy who beat THE guy. That is the acknowledged technical champion. It might not be true in the eyes of boxing fans, but the boxer holding the lineal title is the designated champion until the true guy in the division can beat him & take the title. What? You think they list the lineal title on boxer's resume for no reason? Are you serious? The only reason they invented the lineal title was because there's 4 world boxing organizations (5 if you count the IBO). That's why the lineal title exists today. Willie Pep fought when there was only 2 recognized boxing organizations: the NYCSAC & the NBA (WBA). And the two were cooperative, so when Willie Pep won the NYCSAC, he won in essence the lineal title. Now, remembering that a lineal title didn't exist back then because there wasn't a need for one...Willie Pep was the world (lineal) champion when he beat Chalky Wright in 1962. When he fought, there was no need for a lineal title. He was THE guy! Understand? Now that there's 4 champions per division, the lineal title is the technical title until the perceived champion GGG can take it from him...or acquire it after it's stripped. Understand? Kovalev must beat Adonis Stevenson in order to be the technical lineal champion. Understand? You need to go back to work, hype man.

[BoxingFan85]

Oh, right..... I just saw an ignorant tard valiantly defending his pacifist girlfriend..... I must have jumped to conclusions, sorry about that.

Aaaaah.. Is that so!? Except what appears plain and simple was the guy defending was you..
Try again..

[aboutfkntime]

Ohhhhh-kay hype man, so a champion isn't a champion unless you give approval that they're the best in that division? Ok hype man. Delusions of grandeur doesn't even begin to describe your ego, hype man. The lineal title means that's the guy who beat THE guy who beat THE guy. That is the acknowledged technical champion. It might not be true in the eyes of boxing fans, but the boxer holding the lineal title is the designated champion until the true guy in the division can beat him & take the title. What? You think they list the lineal title on boxer's resume for no reason? Are you serious? The only reason they invented the lineal title was because there's 4 world boxing organizations (5 if you count the IBO). That's why the lineal title exists today. Willie Pep fought when there was only 2 recognized boxing organizations: the NYCSAC & the NBA (WBA). And the two were cooperative, so when Willie Pep won the NYCSAC, he won in essence the lineal title. Now, remembering that a lineal title didn't exist back then because there wasn't a need for one...Willie Pep was the world (lineal) champion when he beat Chalky Wright in 1962. When he fought, there was no need for a lineal title. He was THE guy! Understand? Now that there's 4 champions per division, the lineal title is the technical title until the perceived champion GGG can take it from him...or acquire it after it's stripped. Understand? Kovalev must beat Adonis Stevenson in order to be the technical lineal champion. Understand? You need to go back to work, hype man.

Good effort, you have obviously been listening/thinking..... but you are still totally clueless about lineage.

Well done for finally figuring out that lineage only exists because of the multiple sanctioning organisations..... it took you awhile, you really were dumb when you told me that Pep won 2 lineal titles.

But yea, you still don't know **** about boxing.

Pep was not a lineal champ, because he was a REAL champ..... he did not have the "opportunity" (LMAO) to fight for the prestigious lineal title..... so you telling me that Barrera is greater than Pep, because Barrera won the "lineal" title..... makes me want to hit you with a spade.

"It might not be true in the eyes of boxing fans".....

..... genius, knowledgeable boxing fans disregard lineage because they know that it is totally irrelevant. If you have a real hard think about what you have learnt over the last 2 days you will understand why.

Lineage is just a triangle theory, and triangle theories do not work in boxing..... the lineage since Hopkins - that I posted for you earlier - proves that 100%.

You..... thinking that Canelo is some great middleweight champion, because he won the "lineal" title (RAWR, the crowd goes wild)..... when in reality, all he did is beat lil old 153lb Cotto..... makes you look pretty dumb.

Canelo has never faced a middleweight opponent..... not one, EVER !

Do what you did yesterday..... go away, have a think about what I have said..... then come back and try again.

..... but props for your effort so far ^^

[aboutfkntime]

Stevenson is a belt-holder..... that is all.

And Canelo is a middleweight paper-champ..... that is all.


































If you prefer..... and if I was dishonest..... or if I was a Golovkin hater..... I would decide to agree with you.....

..... but then, I would do something like this.....


All hail the Lineal Middleweight Champion OF THE WORLD.....

..... and lil-G's middleweight daddy..... CANELOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !





But lucky for you I am not dishonest.

[JUNIABOY]

Good effort, you have obviously been listening/thinking..... but you are still totally clueless about lineage.

Well done for finally figuring out that lineage only exists because of the multiple sanctioning organisations..... it took you awhile, you really were dumb when you told me that Pep won 2 lineal titles.

But yea, you still don't know **** about boxing.

Pep was not a lineal champ, because he was a REAL champ..... he did not have the "opportunity" (LMAO) to fight for the prestigious lineal title..... so you telling me that Barrera is greater than Pep, because Barrera won the "lineal" title..... makes me want to hit you with a spade.

"It might not be true in the eyes of boxing fans".....

..... genius, knowledgeable boxing fans disregard lineage because they know that it is totally irrelevant. If you have a real hard think about what you have learnt over the last 2 days you will understand why.

Lineage is just a triangle theory, and triangle theories do not work in boxing..... the lineage since Hopkins - that I posted for you earlier - proves that 100%.

You..... thinking that Canelo is some great middleweight champion, because he won the "lineal" title (RAWR, the crowd goes wild)..... when in reality, all he did is beat lil old 153lb Cotto..... makes you look pretty dumb.

Canelo has never faced a middleweight opponent..... not one, EVER !

Do what you did yesterday..... go away, have a think about what I have said..... then come back and try again.

..... but props for your effort so far ^^

Hype man, all you want to do is ignore all the facts that contradicts your stance. Canelo owns the 160 lineal title. FACT. Canelo has not been stripped of that 160 lineal title. FACT. Canelo won a WBC & lineal MW titles when he beat Cotto at 155. FACT. The Caneloweight of 155 is within the MW limit. FACT. Who cares what your opinion is. If Canelo didn't want to be put in this position, he should have never paid the fees to acquire the belts, or he could have vacated it upon winning them...& he should have never asked for a voluntary defense...& he should have never fought that voluntary defense against Amir Khan instead of a MW to help him acclimate to the weight. And he should have never called GGG into the ring & said he'd fight him now. Canelo did this to himself. Yet you keep on defending him...& you keep on attacking GGG with nothing but opinion. Go back to work, hype man.

[JUNIABOY]

Stevenson is a belt-holder..... that is all.

And Canelo is a middleweight paper-champ..... that is all.

If you prefer..... and if I was dishonest..... or if I was a Golovkin hater..... I would decide to agree with you.....

..... but then, I would do something like this.....

All hail the Lineal Middleweight Champion OF THE WORLD.....

..... and lil-G's middleweight daddy..... CANELOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

But lucky for you I am not dishonest.

Come on hype man, now you're contradicting yourself. If Stevenson is holding a world title belt, that makes him a champion. If Canelo is also holding onto a world belt, that makes him a champion. It's like you don't even know how to understand English or something. It's like normal logic escapes you. You might as well go full-on troll & say asinine statements like you just did above...you're never going to give GGG credit for anything...& you're always going to defend Canelo even though Canelo was the one who ducked GGG. You might as well go full-on dark side & say the most blasphemous boxing statements. All you ever want to do is fight & not debate anyway. Go back to work, hype man.

[aboutfkntime]

Hype man, all you want to do is ignore all the facts that contradicts your stance. Canelo owns the 160 lineal title. FACT. Canelo has not been stripped of that 160 lineal title. FACT. Canelo won a WBC & lineal MW titles when he beat Cotto at 155. FACT. The Caneloweight of 155 is within the MW limit. FACT. Who cares what your opinion is. If Canelo didn't want to be put in this position, he should have never paid the fees to acquire the belts, or he could have vacated it upon winning them...& he should have never asked for a voluntary defense...& he should have never fought that voluntary defense against Amir Khan instead of a MW to help him acclimate to the weight. And he should have never called GGG into the ring & said he'd fight him now. Canelo did this to himself. Yet you keep on defending him...& you keep on attacking GGG with nothing but opinion. Go back to work, hype man.

FK you're a moron LMAO

[aboutfkntime]

Come on hype man, now you're contradicting yourself. If Stevenson is holding a world title belt, that makes him a champion. If Canelo is also holding onto a world belt, that makes him a champion. It's like you don't even know how to understand English or something. It's like normal logic escapes you. You might as well go full-on troll & say asinine statements like you just did above...you're never going to give GGG credit for anything...& you're always going to defend Canelo even though Canelo was the one who ducked GGG. You might as well go full-on dark side & say the most blasphemous boxing statements. All you ever want to do is fight & not debate anyway. Go back to work, hype man.

because, you can have multiple " champions "..... right ?


champion
ˈtʃampɪən/Submit
noun
1.
a person who has surpassed all rivals in a sporting contest or other competition


FK you casual-fans are morons