Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Eyes Andre Ward - If Both Keep Winning

[Froch_uppercut]

I see your reasoning but remember team g string has half of the boxing world believing that he is an ATG and a HOFer without ever fighting even one true quality opponent and that's pretty good management.

You need new eyes son. Your cherry picking, bone idle, fight every three years against bums overrated Ward has conned you into thinking he is decent.
He'll never fight GGG, he's afraid, and besides, he'll retire after Kovalev ****ing demolishes him.

[Mr. Luthor]

you should do yourself a big favor and just be quiet. That way people wont know how ignorant you really are.

The Ward offer was for ONE interim fight, and then they meet in 2016. ONE INTERIM FIGHT. (That would have been the Lemeiux fight BTW) The IBF had already said that the winner of GGG-Lemieux had a mando due, and they only allow that to be bumped in favor of a unification fight. GGG-Ward is not a unification fight, so bye bye IBF title. And if you want to claim that the IBF wouldnt actually strip him, then that shows you know squat about the IBF.

As for the WBC interim, had GGG accepted this deal, the first thing Oscar would have done the day after Canelo beat Cotto would be to call the WBC and say they were ready to negotiate with GGG for the mando defense. (even though they would be bluffing, it doesnt matter) Heres how that convo would have went:



"We're ready to do our mando. Whats that, GGG is not available because he's contractually bound to a Ward fight? My my thats awful, I guess he will have to be stripped then, and we'll move on to the next contender"

And yes, Oscar and Gomez are smart enough to know to do just that. You're the one who is a bit "challenged" in these areas........

Stop embarrassing yourself by trying to use what you think De La Hoya would have done as "evidence" to support your opinion.

Wade became Golovkin's "next up" IBF opponent after Tureno Johnson was unavailable due to injury.

Ward vacated his WBA Super World Super Middleweight title in Nov of 2015 but his Golovkin offer was in September 2015 so Ward was in fact a champion when the offer was made to K2.

So based on your "logic" the WBA should be planning on stripping Golovkin for facing Brook?

The IBF stripping inactive Jermaine Taylor does not equate to the IBF stripping Golovkin for facing Andre Ward instead of Dominic Wade. C'mon now.

Do I need to point out that Golovkin was not the IBF Middleweight champion when Roc Nation sent K2 the fight proposal?

[just the facts]

You need new eyes son. Your cherry picking, bone idle, fight every three years against bums overrated Ward has conned you into thinking he is decent.
He'll never fight GGG, he's afraid, and besides, he'll retire after Kovalev ****ing demolishes him.

Where did I mention Ward in my post? I see you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but try to keep up.

[aboutfkntime]

When was the last time Canelo made 154? 3 years ago? Are you going to demand a line graph to prove this now? And does that mean you're calling yourself a dumb c#nt? You can do better than that, hype man. Keep your dreams alive

154 is 1lb below 155, you silly fk.

when did he last make 155 ?

it is 1lb, you silly fk LMAO

FACT: Canelo will make 154
FACT: you are a silly ****

[aboutfkntime]

How is that possible? Ward signed that deal with HBO 2 days after the GGG/Lemeiux fight.

..... you mean, 2 days after he was turned down in 36 minutes flat ?

..... which would be 2 days after it became clearly apparent that lil'G would never fight him, EVER?

..... well, Ward did not hang around rotting in a dead division, thats for sure.

[OnePunch]

Stop embarrassing yourself by trying to use what you think De La Hoya would have done as "evidence" to support your opinion.

Wade became Golovkin's "next up" IBF opponent after Tureno Johnson was unavailable due to injury.

Ward vacated his WBA Super World Super Middleweight title in Nov of 2015 but his Golovkin offer was in September 2015 so Ward was in fact a champion when the offer was made to K2.

So based on your "logic" the WBA should be planning on stripping Golovkin for facing Brook?

The IBF stripping inactive Jermaine Taylor does not equate to the IBF stripping Golovkin for facing Andre Ward instead of Dominic Wade. C'mon now.

Do I need to point out that Golovkin was not the IBF Middleweight champion when Roc Nation sent K2 the fight proposal?

sigh, I feel like I lose 100 brain cells every time I engage with you.

Look, this really isnt that hard to understand. K2 has said from day 1 that by the time they got Ward's "offer", they had already committed to the Lemieux fight. So they would have been well aware that Lemieux had a mando due, and that even though GGG-Lemieux could proceed (because it was a unification fight), the winner would have an immediate mando due. There have been multiple threads here about the IBF and their inflexibility when it comes to mandos, so please educate yourself before trying to claim there is some magical way that GGG could have signed for the Ward deal and yet NOT get stripped by the IBF.

Hint: there isnt


and to those that have the mistaken notion that GGG could have fought Lemieux, then did a mando or whatever, here is a quote from Loeffler......


Gennady Golovkin‘s manager Tom Loeffler responded to allegations that they turned down a fight to face Andre Ward. Ward stated that they offered a 50/50 deal at 168 lbs and within 5 minutes team GGG turned down the offer, but Loeffler told the La Times ”it was an offer to fight Ward in “late of 2016” with both fighter’s taking a fight before, ”

Loeffler went on to say ”Should Golovkin defeat Lemieux he would be in line to face the winner of Cotto-Canelo next, a much bigger fight, if Golovkin sells well as his own PPV then taking a fight at 50/50 with Ward right now would be premature considering Golovkin could be a much bigger star in late of 2016. That’s not to say the Golovkin-Ward can’t happen, it’s just something that will have to be revisited after the Cotto-Canelo situation plays out”.



"both fighters taking A fight before"

A=1

A does not equal 2, 3 or 4

[OnePunch]

..... you mean, 2 days after he was turned down in 36 minutes flat ?

..... which would be 2 days after it became clearly apparent that lil'G would never fight him, EVER?

..... well, Ward did not hang around rotting in a dead division, thats for sure.

if 168 is "dead", then why are idiots like you always crying that GGG wont move up to 168?

[MC Hammer]

Loeffler has publicly stated on more than 1 occasion that he works 2-3 fights ahead with Golovkin.

..... oh, except when he needs to NOT negotiate with Andre Ward LMAO




wants big drama show

just doesn't want any actual drama

Its getting out hand here. People screaming he's a throwback, a boogey man etc etc but he is more maneuvered than anyfighter going right now.

[MC Hammer]

sigh, I feel like I lose 100 brain cells every time I engage with you.

Look, this really isnt that hard to understand. K2 has said from day 1 that by the time they got Ward's "offer", they had already committed to the Lemieux fight. So they would have been well aware that Lemieux had a mando due, and that even though GGG-Lemieux could proceed (because it was a unification fight), the winner would have an immediate mando due. There have been multiple threads here about the IBF and their inflexibility when it comes to mandos, so please educate yourself before trying to claim there is some magical way that GGG could have signed for the Ward deal and yet NOT get stripped by the IBF.

Hint: there isnt


and to those that have the mistaken notion that GGG could have fought Lemieux, then did a mando or whatever, here is a quote from Loeffler......


Gennady Golovkin‘s manager Tom Loeffler responded to allegations that they turned down a fight to face Andre Ward. Ward stated that they offered a 50/50 deal at 168 lbs and within 5 minutes team GGG turned down the offer, but Loeffler told the La Times ”it was an offer to fight Ward in “late of 2016” with both fighter’s taking a fight before, ”

Loeffler went on to say ”Should Golovkin defeat Lemieux he would be in line to face the winner of Cotto-Canelo next, a much bigger fight, if Golovkin sells well as his own PPV then taking a fight at 50/50 with Ward right now would be premature considering Golovkin could be a much bigger star in late of 2016. That’s not to say the Golovkin-Ward can’t happen, it’s just something that will have to be revisited after the Cotto-Canelo situation plays out”.



"both fighters taking A fight before"

A=1

A does not equal 2, 3 or 4

Well so far ggg has only taken A fight between then and now and thats Wade, his mando. The Ward fight would be happening now instead of Brook because he didn't get the fight with Canelo. And you can't even say that they didn't know what would happen with Canelo because according to Sanchez they knew he'd vacate. They didn't revisit the situation, they didn't reach out to ROC about Ward and they try to make the fight happen at all. They preferred to chase hesitant fighters while avoiding a challenge

[Mr. Luthor]

Top-3 p4p is still pretty damn good. And isn't Canelo holding the lineal title hostage?

Top 3 is very impressive but it means that 2 boxers are ahead of Golovkin. Ridiculous to suggest that Canelo is holding the Lineal title "hostage" when he hasn't even had it for a year.