Comments Thread For: Golovkin vs. Brook - WBA Has NOT Sanctioned as Title Fight

[Scipio2009]

Danny Garcia is not being positioned anything like Dela Hoya! LOL!!! Dela Hoya was active and taking good fights at that stage. Garcia has reached a point where he's being protected and moved carefully. After he should've lost to Herrera, it was Salka, then the weight-adjusted fight with Peterson, then shot fighters in Guerrero & Mallinaggi. LOL, Dela Hoya.... Garcia wants more money b/c he wants to cash out his '0'. He's not worth a quarter of what your delusional ass is claiming, lol!!!


It's funny you claim to know what K2 will be willing to offer in comparison to Haymon. Loeffler already made it clear they'll be taking the fight to ppv, and again with a $4-5mill purse bid, Danny makes less than the $1.5mill K2 already approached him with based on the structure of the Lemieux deal. Again you're delusional if you think they value Danny that much. Espinoza's only interest in Danny is to c*ck-block him being a victim on HBO for their star fighter.

You talked about all the non-ppv money - gate, international tv, K2's very aware of what the value of those sources are since they've been far more successful at tapping into those sources than anyone on the Haymon roster.

I see you're still clueless on the new NY health insurance law. The 'Face of Brooklyn' is done fighting in Brooklyn. Danny Jacobs is not a draw, and that's why his team is putting him on Friday Night Fights in Las Vegas at the little Cosmo.

When it comes time for a purse bid, Danny will have two choices, vacate with an excuse over his feminine problems or accept the offer K2 presents.

^^^look at this guy

[Wizardsh]

^^^look at this guy

Dam dude just shut up, you are embarrassing yourself trying to defend Danny Garcia. It's getting sad now

[Eastcoast]

here we go:

-Lucas Matthysse, Mauricio Herrera, Lamont Peterson, Paulie Malignaggi, and Robert Guerrero were all in the top 15 at 147 when Danny fought them (Matthysse, Peterson, and Guerrero for sure being in the top 10); if you want to call that facing shot guys, I'm seriously intrigued to hear who you think is actually fighting on the level.

Matthysse, Herrera, and Peterson were not rated at 147, so you're wrong on that... Mallignaggi was coming off a 4th round TKO to Porter & Guerrero was coming off his controversial SD over Aaron Martinez, a fight everybody felt he lost. Those two were picked to be safe fights for Danny. You're lousy at spinning....

-If Danny Garcia isn't even worth a quarter of what "my delusional ass is claiming", why is Top Rank even wasting the time talking to him, knowing that Pacquiao's last PPV fight cost the company a ton of money?

TR offered Garcia $4mill, his best payday from the hedgefund wasn't even half that. You're trying make him out to be on par with someone like Cotto, in terms of what he can command, and that, like you is a laugh.

-Jacobs-Quillin and Golovkin-Lemieux, in terms of the amount of money that was put behind their respective events, had about the same amount of money at risk. K2 felt that the only way they could even fathom putting on their fight was to go to PPV (with an fight that they weren't even confident was worth PPV to begin with); DiBella Entertainment (working the show on Jacobs/Quillin/Haymon behalf) was happy to have their fight on Showtime/SHO Extreme and not cry about it.

Jacobs/Quillin had a purse just $500k less than Golovkin/Lemieux.

Golovkin/Lemieux generated $8mill in ppv revenue, $2mill in gate revenue, and $122k in merchandise. That's not including Canadian ppv, international tv, and sponsors.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-per-view-buys

Jacobs/Quillin only had 8,442 people in attendance and only 385k who watched on tv.
You're a certifiable ****** if you try to explain to anyone that those two shows were about equal in success.

Jacobs-Golovkin is a bigger fight than Jacobs-Quillin was; if Showtime/Barclays Center was already willing to lay out what they did for Jacobs-Quillin, they'll be willing to do more for Jacobs-Golovkin; if you want to han your hat on "****-blocking HBO", that's on you.

So what you're saying is, in order for Jacobs to ever be a draw, he needs Golovkin's name. Well we finally agree on something...

-K2 doesn't have anywhere near the relationships with boxing-related parties that Haymon seems to have; if they did, they wouldn't have Golovkin heading to the UK for all of an appearance fee and the TV rights in the US/Germany.

How do you know what relationships/contacts K2 has? Lol, you're reaching deep up your own ass to come out with some of these statements...

The fact that Golovkin can go to the UK and have a mega event in a complete mismatch of a fight is evidence of his global market value. How come Haymon with all his contacts has Danny Jacobs fighting at the Cosmo in LV? Wow, major contacts!!

-The fact that you're still talking about the "new NY health insurance law" (which isn't actually the concern of NY fight promoters, if you actually knew what you were talking about) lets me know what I need to know about you.

Who are you? Really? DiBella, Arum and other prominent boxing promoters have already been quoted saying they won't be doing anymore shows in NY as long as this bill goes through on Sept 1st, yet here you are being your typical delusional space cadet self.

-The date hasn't been confirmed for Jacobs' next fight (though the current understanding is that he'll fight Sergio Mora), and neither has the venue. Beyond that, if the fight really is going to be on Friday, it'll likely be on SpikeTV, reaching a far wider audience than "little Friday Night Fights".

That was per Danny Jacobs own advisor Keith Connolly. Being who you are, I'm sure you know more about what Danny Jacobs is doing next than his own agent, lol. You're a complete tool.

Given how far Epsinoza's driven Showtime ratings into the ground, SpikeTV would probably be an upside for Danny. But let's not kid ourselves, he's fighting on a Friday night b/c he's not a major attraction.



Hey, remember when you said Wade's side would win a purse and Golovkin would have to vacate his IBF title? You keep dropping that mad knowledge of yours, it makes for a good laugh.

First, Haymon wouldn't win the bid; Tom Brown will likely win the bid (on the understanding that he'd be partnering with DiBella Entertainment to take the fight to the East Coast) and get his other fighters opportunities on the undercard of a PBC broadcast (Depending on the timing of the bid, DBE/TGB could pair Golovkin-Wade with Charles Martin's first title defense, Steve Cunningham seeming like the obvious choice).

Secondly, if Haymon were to end up with the fight, HBO would force Golovkin to vacate the belt (on the premise that they'll be able to spin the boxing press into accepting a different "Super Golovkin" story)

[Scipio2009]

Matthysse, Herrera, and Peterson were not rated at 147, so you're wrong on that... Mallignaggi was coming off a 4th round TKO to Porter & Guerrero was coming off his controversial SD over Aaron Martinez, a fight everybody felt he lost. Those two were picked to be safe fights for Danny. You're lousy at spinning....




TR offered Garcia $4mill, his best payday from the hedgefund wasn't even half that. You're trying make him out to be on par with someone like Cotto, in terms of what he can command, and that, like you is a laugh.



Jacobs/Quillin had a purse just $500k less than Golovkin/Lemieux.

Golovkin/Lemieux generated $8mill in ppv revenue, $2mill in gate revenue, and $122k in merchandise. That's not including Canadian ppv, international tv, and sponsors.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-per-view-buys

Jacobs/Quillin only had 8,442 people in attendance and only 385k who watched on tv.
You're a certifiable ****** if you try to explain to anyone that those two shows were about equal in success.



So what you're saying is, in order for Jacobs to ever be a draw, he needs Golovkin's name. Well we finally agree on something...



How do you know what relationships/contacts K2 has? Lol, you're reaching deep up your own ass to come out with some of these statements...

The fact that Golovkin can go to the UK and have a mega event in a complete mismatch of a fight is evidence of his global market value. How come Haymon with all his contacts has Danny Jacobs fighting at the Cosmo in LV? Wow, major contacts!!




Who are you? Really? DiBella, Arum and other prominent boxing promoters have already been quoted saying they won't be doing anymore shows in NY as long as this bill goes through on Sept 1st, yet here you are being your typical delusional space cadet self.




That was per Danny Jacobs own advisor Keith Connolly. Being who you are, I'm sure you know more about what Danny Jacobs is doing next than his own agent, lol. You're a complete tool.

Given how far Epsinoza's driven Showtime ratings into the ground, SpikeTV would probably be an upside for Danny. But let's not kid ourselves, he's fighting on a Friday night b/c he's not a major attraction.



Hey, remember when you said Wade's side would win a purse and Golovkin would have to vacate his IBF title? You keep dropping that mad knowledge of yours, it makes for a good laugh.

-My mistake; Matthysse was the #2 140lb fighter, Peterson was in the top 5 fighters at 140lbs when he fought Garcia at the catchweight, and Herrera was well into the top 10 at 140 when he fought Garcia at 140. the actual opposition was better then I'd remembered them being rated. Hilarious to see you ignore the point about calling Garcia's competition ****.

-No one is saying that Cotto and Garcia are on par; Cotto took home well over $15m for his fight against Alvarez. The fact that you think that Garcia needs to be thirsting after the same money that Rios got offered to fight Pacquiao after taking an L is laughable.

-The Jacobs-Quillin card featured 10 fights (at least four of which made US TV); Golovkin-Lemieux was a 7-fight show. The money put behind each show, card for card, was likely on par. not that complicated.

-Tom Loeffler isn't even going far enough to tell the PPV lie that you're willing to drivel out to try and save face. Even on the rosiest of conclusions based on what Loeffler is willing to put his name on, the event only did $7.5m in PPV revenue, and that's if you believe the 150k PPV buy lie. then again, fudging the numbers is something you have no qualms doing.

-The fact that you're trying to spin Matchroom Sport delivering a Sky Box Office event in arguably their hottest market, for a fight that literally no one was talking about even hours before the announcement, as if Golovkin was the one to deliver the massive business, is laughable. K2 is literally doing nothing more than having Golovkin show up for fight week, yet you're trying to call in the Golovkin show? lol

-You've still yet to state why NY boxing is being left in question, let alone the actual likely (and simple) fix, which lets it be absolutely clear that you have no idea what you're actually talking about.

-And you know why there was no purse bid? Because K2, apparently seeing things for what they were, offered Wade 5 times his highest purse in life to avoid a such scenario even manifesting.

With the bid scenario manifesting again, this time with the WBA belt in the lurch, is K2 going to be willing to do the same thing to avoid getting punked? we'll see.

[Eastcoast]

-My mistake; Matthysse was the #2 140lb fighter, Peterson was in the top 5 fighters at 140lbs when he fought Garcia at the catchweight, and Herrera was well into the top 10 at 140 when he fought Garcia at 140. the actual opposition was better then I'd remembered them being rated. Hilarious to see you ignore the point about calling Garcia's competition ****.

Hey smart guy, you're the one who compared how Danny Garcia's being moved at WW to how Oscar Dela Hoya's was being moved. I notice you had no defense about how Danny fought Mallignaggi and Guerrero on their down slides. You also left out Salka in between his rightful loss to Herrera and the weight adjusted fight with Peterson.

-No one is saying that Cotto and Garcia are on par; Cotto took home well over $15m for his fight against Alvarez. The fact that you think that Garcia needs to be thirsting after the same money that Rios got offered to fight Pacquiao after taking an L is laughable.

Cotto only made $8mill vs Pacquiao and vs Mayweather. You're the genius insisting Danny's worth that much vs Pacquiao. Is Danny willing to travel to China and fight Pacquiao like Rios did? Othewise shut up about that comparison. Plus Rios made $3mill, not the $4mill that was offered to Danny.

-The Jacobs-Quillin card featured 10 fights (at least four of which made US TV); Golovkin-Lemieux was a 7-fight show. The money put behind each show, card for card, was likely on par. not that complicated.

To clarify, your saying Jacobs/Quillin cost just as much as Lemieux/Golovkin and yet Jacobs/Quillin completely bombing in comparison makes it just as much of a success? You must be trolling if you're doubling down and this ******ity.

-Tom Loeffler isn't even going far enough to tell the PPV lie that you're willing to drivel out to try and save face. Even on the rosiest of conclusions based on what Loeffler is willing to put his name on, the event only did $7.5m in PPV revenue, and that's if you believe the 150k PPV buy lie. then again, fudging the numbers is something you have no qualms doing.

Lol, you claim Tom's lying. Lets see the real numbers then smart guy. Oh wait, you got ****. As usual... I Loeffler & HBO wanted to put out false numbers, they could've put out numbers higher than what they originally predicted. Keep trying or start crying.

-The fact that you're trying to spin Matchroom Sport delivering a Sky Box Office event in arguably their hottest market, for a fight that literally no one was talking about even hours before the announcement, as if Golovkin was the one to deliver the massive business, is laughable. K2 is literally doing nothing more than having Golovkin show up for fight week, yet you're trying to call in the Golovkin show? lol

Kell Brook's making his career best payday by far and fighting the biggest event of his life. You're a joke if you don't think it has something to do with his dance partner. Golovkin/Eubank bumped Brook/Vargas off their original date.

-You've still yet to state why NY boxing is being left in question, let alone the actual likely (and simple) fix, which lets it be absolutely clear that you have no idea what you're actually talking about.

I clearly stated why NY is being left into question. It's been widely reported by journalists such as George Willis. Prominent boxing promoters such as DiBella & Arum have stated they won't be doing boxing in NY under this law. And there's little ole you, the master genius behind the curtain who knows everything......

-And you know why there was no purse bid? Because K2, apparently seeing things for what they were, offered Wade 5 times his highest purse in life to avoid a such scenario even manifesting.

There was no purse bid b/c Loeffler offered them $500k and Tom Brown jumped at the offer! Lol, you so confidently predicted Brown would win the purse bid and Golovkin would get stripped of his belt, lol!!!! ******....

With the bid scenario manifesting again, this time with the WBA belt in the lurch, is K2 going to be willing to do the same thing to avoid getting punked? we'll see.

With a 75/25 split, Jacobs & Haymon aren't bidding **** except in your delusional dreams like always. Now sit down you clown.

[Scipio2009]

Hey smart guy, you're the one who compared how Danny Garcia's being moved at WW to how Oscar Dela Hoya's was being moved. I notice you had no defense about how Danny fought Mallignaggi and Guerrero on their down slides. You also left out Salka in between his rightful loss to Herrera and the weight adjusted fight with Peterson.



Cotto only made $8mill vs Pacquiao and vs Mayweather. You're the genius insisting Danny's worth that much vs Pacquiao. Is Danny willing to travel to China and fight Pacquiao like Rios did? Othewise shut up about that comparison. Plus Rios made $3mill, not the $4mill that was offered to Danny.




To clarify, your saying Jacobs/Quillin cost just as much as Lemieux/Golovkin and yet Jacobs/Quillin completely bombing in comparison makes it just as much of a success? You must be trolling if you're doubling down and this ******ity.




Lol, you claim Tom's lying. Lets see the real numbers then smart guy. Oh wait, you got ****. As usual... I Loeffler & HBO wanted to put out false numbers, they could've put out numbers higher than what they originally predicted. Keep trying or start crying.




Kell Brook's making his career best payday by far and fighting the biggest event of his life. You're a joke if you don't think it has something to do with his dance partner. Golovkin/Eubank bumped Brook/Vargas off their original date.



I clearly stated why NY is being left into question. It's been widely reported by journalists such as George Willis. Prominent boxing promoters such as DiBella & Arum have stated they won't be doing boxing in NY under this law. And there's little ole you, the master genius behind the curtain who knows everything......



There was no purse bid b/c Loeffler offered them $500k and Tom Brown jumped at the offer! Lol, you so confidently predicted Brown would win the purse bid and Golovkin would get stripped of his belt, lol!!!! ******....



With a 75/25 split, Jacobs & Haymon aren't bidding **** except in your delusional dreams like always. Now sit down you clown.

-Danny Garcia, outside of Floyd Mayweather Jr, is the name in the mouth of ever fighter at 147; funny how you blatantly ignore the reality of the situation.

-try again on that Cotto lie

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4674275 [Cotto at $12m]
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/5/2/...bo-boxing-news [$8m as his guarantee]
http://www.totalsportek.com/boxing/c...share-payouts/ [$10m as his guarantee]

The fact that you think that Garcia should be thirsting after $3m is laughable.

-I'm making the point that DiBella Entertainment and K2 bet about the same amount of money on their respective broadcasts, and K2 were the only ones *****ing about how lackluster their event did, with things hit to the point that it's unlikely that Golovkin is ever going to fight on US PPV ever again.

-There was no purse bid because Dominic Wade literally got 5 times the money he's ever made for a fight to avoid the bid. If you honestly believe that K2 is willing to do the same for Jacobs, come out and say that. I'll wait.

-In a purse bid situation, all Golovkin is entitled to is 75% of whatever the bid on the fight is; on a $3m bid, all Golovkin is going to see is the $2.25m. The winner of the bid controls the entire event; US TV, which partners get the international TV, what venue hosts the event, what beer sponsors gets center ring, etc (all of which Jacobs likely has a share in).

DiBella/Haymon were willing to put up $5m to host Wilder-Povetkin. How much do you honestly think that they'd be willing to put up to host Jacobs-Golovkin, and compare that to what K2 would be willing to put up to host Golovkin-Jacobs? lol

[Eastcoast]

-Danny Garcia, outside of Floyd Mayweather Jr, is the name in the mouth of ever fighter at 147; funny how you blatantly ignore the reality of the situation.

-try again on that Cotto lie

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4674275 [Cotto at $12m]
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/5/2/...bo-boxing-news [$8m as his guarantee]
http://www.totalsportek.com/boxing/c...share-payouts/ [$10m as his guarantee]

Dan Rafael of ESPN reports that Miguel Cotto will make a career-best $8 million purse on Saturday night against Floyd Mayweather Jr, plus upside money from the HBO pay-per-view sales.

Try again ******. We're talking guarantee's, Cotto going in only had $8mill on the table. Arum offered Broner & Garcia ppv upside, but they insisted on Cotto-like guarantees.

The fact that you think that Garcia should be thirsting after $3m is laughable.

You do know Garcia was offered $4mill, not $3mill? You keep changing the number like it's helping your argument and not making you looks ******.

-I'm making the point that DiBella Entertainment and K2 bet about the same amount of money on their respective broadcasts, and K2 were the only ones *****ing about how lackluster their event did, with things hit to the point that it's unlikely that Golovkin is ever going to fight on US PPV ever again.

Again, a Kazahk and a Canadian fought in NY for roughly the same amount of money as two Brooklyn boys and the Brooklyn boys BOMBED. No comparison. One event had over 20,000 people show up, the other less than 8,500. Nobody gives a **** about Danny enough that he's demanding anything special in negotiations.

-There was no purse bid because Dominic Wade literally got 5 times the money he's ever made for a fight to avoid the bid. If you honestly believe that K2 is willing to do the same for Jacobs, come out and say that. I'll wait.

Wade got 5x his biggest payday b/c his previous biggest payday was ****. Tom Brown, the guy you predicted would win the purse bid, jumped at the first offer within a few days instead of forcing it to purse bid like you predicted so they could strip Golovkin's title like you predicted. Your really good at predicting stuff, not sure what went wrong there....

-In a purse bid situation, all Golovkin is entitled to is 75% of whatever the bid on the fight is; on a $3m bid, all Golovkin is going to see is the $2.25m. The winner of the bid controls the entire event; US TV, which partners get the international TV, what venue hosts the event, what beer sponsors gets center ring, etc (all of which Jacobs likely has a share in).

I don't know what kind of ****** logic your using, but this fight does have a certain market value and K2 very much knows it. DiBella/Haymon aren't bidding over $5mill on this fight. After the ppv, gate, sponsors, international tv, they'll be lucky if it's much more than that - and again my little fool, they'll be giving 75% of that revenue to Golovkin.

With K2 taking 75% of the winning bid, they are the one's in position to over bid. **** are you really this dumb?!! If the show doesn't meet expenses, they simply don't have to pay themselves the extra. That's happened numerous times with promotions. TR has eaten losses like that before.

DiBella/Haymon were willing to put up $5m to host Wilder-Povetkin. How much do you honestly think that they'd be willing to put up to host Jacobs-Golovkin, and compare that to what K2 would be willing to put up to host Golovkin-Jacobs? lol

Just like the Wade fight, Haymon's client won't be going to purse bid. They'll receive a decent offer and take it or Danny will vacate with a lame excuse.

[Scipio2009]

Dan Rafael of ESPN reports that Miguel Cotto will make a career-best $8 million purse on Saturday night against Floyd Mayweather Jr, plus upside money from the HBO pay-per-view sales.

Try again ******. We're talking guarantee's, Cotto going in only had $8mill on the table. Arum offered Broner & Garcia ppv upside, but they insisted on Cotto-like guarantees.




You do know Garcia was offered $4mill, not $3mill? You keep changing the number like it's helping your argument and not making you looks ******.





Again, a Kazahk and a Canadian fought in NY for roughly the same amount of money as two Brooklyn boys and the Brooklyn boys BOMBED. No comparison. One event had over 20,000 people show up, the other less than 8,500. Nobody gives a **** about Danny enough that he's demanding anything special in negotiations.



Wade got 5x his biggest payday b/c his previous biggest payday was ****. Tom Brown, the guy you predicted would win the purse bid, jumped at the first offer within a few days instead of forcing it to purse bid like you predicted so they could strip Golovkin's title like you predicted. Your really good at predicting stuff, not sure what went wrong there....



I don't know what kind of ****** logic your using, but this fight does have a certain market value and K2 very much knows it. DiBella/Haymon aren't bidding over $5mill on this fight. After the ppv, gate, sponsors, international tv, they'll be lucky if it's much more than that - and again my little fool, they'll be giving 75% of that revenue to Golovkin.

With K2 taking 75% of the winning bid, they are the one's in position to over bid. **** are you really this dumb?!! If the show doesn't meet expenses, they simply don't have to pay themselves the extra. That's happened numerous times with promotions. TR has eaten losses like that before.



Just like the Wade fight, Haymon's client won't be going to purse bid. They'll receive a decent offer and take it or Danny will vacate with a lame excuse.

-when was the last time anyone actually made any PPV upside on a Pacquiao fight? You can try to separate the two, but I'm arguing final take against final take; the fact still stands that Cotto made over $10 on the Pacquiao and Mayweather fights, and apparently took home well north of $20m on the Alvarez fight. Pacquiao's PPV business being what it's been, to perpetuate the lie about PPV upside on a Pacquiao event makes you look dumb.

-Also hilarious to see you cling so desperately to the "he's a foreigner" bull****; before the Lemieux fight, Golovkin had had 10 fights, 8 of which which were broadcast by HBO, four of those fights having been in New York, three of those fights at Madison Square Garden, with his prior appearance at the venue having already been in the main room. Compare that to Jacobs-Quillin being the first time that either guy ever headlined a show in New York (or ever, for that matter). you played yourself.

-If you think that paying a guy 5 times their prior purse is a good move, as a course of doing regular business, you're an idiot. Daniel Jacobs has already seen $1.5m on a fight, and that was before he picked up the second biggest win of his life.

-Lastly, you obviously have no idea how a purse bid is supposed to work. Golovkin isn't getting 75% of the revenue; he's getting 75% of whatever the actual bid is. The purse bid is listed as a line-item expense for the fight promoter.

Beyond that, DiBella isn't going to have to put up $5m to secure the fight, because K2 isn't going to put up $5m, let alone $4m (if $3.5m for Golovkin-Lemieux was so risky that the rushed themselves into a PPV flop). $3.6m on a bid, pay Golovkin his $2.7m, pay Jacobs $900k plus upside on the event, and let the dBe machine max out the revenues (SHOPPV, Barclays Center hosting the fight/merch, BoxNation vs Sky Sports bidding on the UK rights for the fight, other international TV money, all of which Haymon likely cuts Jacobs in on).

The fact that you seem to honestly believe that K2 could bid $5m on a fight, sign a legally binding bid, and then choose to simply not pay their fight, with no recourse, is hilarious.

[Eastcoast]

-when was the last time anyone actually made any PPV upside on a Pacquiao fight? You can try to separate the two, but I'm arguing final take against final take; the fact still stands that Cotto made over $10 on the Pacquiao and Mayweather fights, and apparently took home well north of $20m on the Alvarez fight. Pacquiao's PPV business being what it's been, to perpetuate the lie about PPV upside on a Pacquiao event makes you look dumb.

You just answered your own question with Cotto making upside vs Pacquiao. Manny's purse is reduced for this fight. It could be as low as $12mill. $4 mill for Garcia is damn good money. When Manny fought Oscar, Manny moved up 2 weight classes and took $6mill to Oscar's $20mill.

-Also hilarious to see you cling so desperately to the "he's a foreigner" bull****; before the Lemieux fight, Golovkin had had 10 fights, 8 of which which were broadcast by HBO, four of those fights having been in New York, three of those fights at Madison Square Garden, with his prior appearance at the venue having already been in the main room. Compare that to Jacobs-Quillin being the first time that either guy ever headlined a show in New York (or ever, for that matter). you played yourself.

You're essentially proving my point - Jacobs isn't a draw and has little leverage in negotiations.

-If you think that paying a guy 5 times their prior purse is a good move, as a course of doing regular business, you're an idiot. Daniel Jacobs has already seen $1.5m on a fight, and that was before he picked up the second biggest win of his life.

Wow, your something else. $500k for Wade is nothing exceptional for a Golovkin opponent. Rubio got $450k, Geale got $600k, Tureano Johnson was looking at the same payday as Wade got. You act like it's some special victory that Wade got $500k, lol...

You really are hilarious. You went from saying Tom Brown would win the bid, to claiming victory for only $500k!!!! How much did you think Tom Brown would bid?????? Hahaha...

Before Quillin, Jacobs biggest payday was only $550k vs Mora. Jacobs only made $100k vs Fletcher.

-Lastly, you obviously have no idea how a purse bid is supposed to work. Golovkin isn't getting 75% of the revenue; he's getting 75% of whatever the actual bid is. The purse bid is listed as a line-item expense for the fight promoter.

I though I made it clear to you, K2 will bid to what the upper expectation of the market value for the fight. With all revenues accounted for, this fight makes just a little over $5mil, (aftertv ppv cut). DiBella/Haymon won't go beyond that value knowing that it's essentially going to be equal to the bid and that 3/4 of the bid value goes to Golovkin. Keep up son.

Beyond that, DiBella isn't going to have to put up $5m to secure the fight, because K2 isn't going to put up $5m, let alone $4m (if $3.5m for Golovkin-Lemieux was so risky that the rushed themselves into a PPV flop). $3.6m on a bid, pay Golovkin his $2.7m, pay Jacobs $900k plus upside on the event, and let the dBe machine max out the revenues (SHOPPV, Barclays Center hosting the fight/merch, BoxNation vs Sky Sports bidding on the UK rights for the fight, other international TV money, all of which Haymon likely cuts Jacobs in on).

Like I said, K2 will bid to the market value which includes all revenues. With the controlling percentage of the bid heavily in their favor, they can afford to do that with minimum risk.

You can act like you know what people are going to bid on a fight all you want - just like you claimed Tom Brown would force a bid and win the Wade/Golovkin fight, lol!

The fact that you seem to honestly believe that K2 could bid $5m on a fight, sign a legally binding bid, and then choose to simply not pay their fight, with no recourse, is hilarious.

You're really something. If they bid $5mill, they pay Danny his $1.25mill (which is less than they've already approached him with per Danny's own words). If the fight bombs, they have the flexibility to pay all the other expenses first and can gradually pay Golovkin's $3.75mill later (worst case).