Jacobs-Mora in Vegas, September 9th

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  • jqSide
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    #11
    So what is the major attraction in this rematch?

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      #12
      Originally posted by FrankieClutch
      The HBO Boxing Podcast explained it as the promoter would have to put up 1 million dollars per every fighter on the card (including the 4,6, and 8 round, untelevised fights) for the insurance. So basically promoters would be spending 10-20 million on insurance for each card.
      wow just smh greedy ass new yorkers!

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        #13
        Originally posted by ИATAS
        lol wtf? Who thought that was a good idea? Tax is already high as it is. Good job killing the sport NY
        Yeah, it's extremely radical. That's why Uncle Bob blew up about it. I think the logic behind it is, the NYSAC is trying to cover their asses from any possible lawsuits from head trauma.

        Originally posted by AddiX
        Jesus I didn't even know that..

        So basically they just don't want boxing in NYC anymore is what they are saying.
        That's what it sounds like man. Unfortunate because the atmosphere at the Barclays has been pretty damn good.

        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        wow just smh greedy ass new yorkers!
        I think greed and paranoia is the reasoning behind it

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          #14
          Originally posted by ИATAS
          Can you elaborate? I vaguely remember Arum or someone complaining about new insurance rules killing boxing in New York but I remember thinking it was an exaggeration
          It was a new law snuck in the MMA bill. It goes into effect Sept 1st, but there's always a chance they could amend it. But I'm guessing that won't happen this calendar year for UFC reasons...



          MSG’s shot at boxing mega-fight may vanish with MMA clause
          By George Willis May 20, 2016 | 9:04pm

          As previously reported in The Post, the bill signed by Gov. Cuomo last month to legalize Mixed Martial Arts in the state contained a clause requiring promoters of boxing and MMA events to carry, among other things, $1 million of insurance on each fighter in case of a traumatic brain injury.

          If no insurance is obtained, promoters are required to put a $1 million guarantee.

          Loeffler said the massive cost and risk for such insurance could diminish the chances of Canelo-Golovkin being held at the Garden in mid-September.

          “The Garden is interested in the fight, so is AT&T Stadium, Las Vegas and Dodgers Stadium,” Loeffler said. “If you have a different challenge at one jurisdiction over another, it makes it more challenging to go there. It could make the difference and affect the decision.”

          Language in the bill gives the New York State Athletic Commission until Sept. 1 to “adjust” the requirement. Lou DiBella of DiBella Entertainment has said he won’t be scheduling any of his Broadway Boxing series in New York beyond September until the issue is resolved.

          It comes at a time when DiBella Entertainment and PIX11 have partnered to broadcast Broadway Boxing, beginning with a 90-minute special Saturday night after the Mets game.

          Just who is in charge at the Commission is another matter.

          David Berlin was removed as executive director on Monday and replaced by Eric Bentley. In a letter to Gov. Cuomo dated May 16 and obtained by The Post, Berlin wrote he was given no reason for his reassignment to the Commission’s legal department other than there had been “too much turmoil’ during his tenure. Berlin declined the reassignment and charged his removal was because “I spoke fully and honestly with the Inspector General’s Office regarding ongoing misconduct at the New York State Athletic Commission.”

          He charged in the letter to Cuomo that current Chairman Tom Hoover put his son on the Commission’s credential list “under a pseudonym” to secure free entry.

          Berlin also charged that Hoover helped a friend become a licensed professional boxing judge “despite the fact the individual had no prior experience in the sport.”

          Berlin also pointed out a final report on an investigation by the Inspector General’s Office into the November 2013 fight when Magomed Abdusalamov suffered a severe brain injury has not yet been released in order “to suppress what are sure to be negative findings about the Commission.”

          State employees, including members of the NYSAC, are not allowed to speak the media, referring calls to the Governor’s office, a policy that took root after Abdusalamov, a heavyweight from Russia, was hurt and filed an ongoing lawsuit against the Commission. The secrecy has created even more uncertainty about who’s actually in charge.

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            #15
            Originally posted by FrankieClutch
            Yeah, it's extremely radical. That's why Uncle Bob blew up about it. I think the logic behind it is, the NYSAC is trying to cover their asses from any possible lawsuits from head trauma.



            That's what it sounds like man. Unfortunate because the atmosphere at the Barclays has been pretty damn good.



            I think greed and paranoia is the reasoning behind it
            It would also essentially end all small promoters ability to promote in ny. Small shows would have no shot here.

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              #16
              Originally posted by AddiX
              It would also essentially end all small promoters ability to promote in ny. Small shows would have no shot here.
              NY was already at a disadvantage for the bigger shows due to high taxes. This kills boxing there for now.

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                #17
                Originally posted by AddiX
                It would also essentially end all small promoters ability to promote in ny. Small shows would have no shot here.
                That was Arum's biggest gripe. He said he could barely afford it, so how is it fair to the small promoters like Lou DiBella, Kathy Duva, etc.? It's complete bull****

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                  That was Arum's biggest gripe. He said he could barely afford it, so how is it fair to the small promoters like Lou DiBella, Kathy Duva, etc.? It's complete bull****
                  I don't get it. Meadowlands Arena (IZOD Center) in Ruthefurd, NJ is only 30 minutes away from MSG and 60 minutes away from the Barclay Center. No insurance issues, lower taxes, yet no big fights???

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    NY was already at a disadvantage for the bigger shows due to high taxes. This kills boxing there for now.


                    Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                    That was Arum's biggest gripe. He said he could barely afford it, so how is it fair to the small promoters like Lou DiBella, Kathy Duva, etc.? It's complete bull****
                    Yeah and considering boxing is dead in Atlantic city, the east coast would be fcked.

                    I worked for a small promoter who was a multi millionaire, even your small shows are insanely expensive, fans have no clue, with this rule small shows have no shot.

                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    I don't get it. Meadowlands Arena (IZOD Center) in Ruthefurd, NJ is only 30 minutes away from MSG and 60 minutes away from the Barclay Center. No insurance issues, lower taxes, yet no big fights???
                    Who could sell at the meadowlands?

                    Not to mention a big time outdoor show is a promotional nightmare. You spend every day preying and checking the weather hoping it won't rain, or else your fcked.

                    Also, no one wants to go to NJ. It would have to be a megafight to pull that off.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by AddiX
                      Who could sell at the meadowlands?

                      Not to mention a big time outdoor show is a promotional nightmare. You spend every day preying and checking the weather hoping it won't rain, or else your fcked.

                      Also, no one wants to go to NJ. It would have to be a megafight to pull that off.

                      IZOD Center's an indoor arena where the Nets used to play. Little bigger than Barclay Center actually. I think big boxing events could do well there for now if there's not going to be any boxing shows in NY. Jacobs/Mora might've been better off there than at the Cosmo in Vegas. Throw some Polish guys on the card like Sulecki, Szpilka, Glowaki, Wlodarczyk & Fonfara and you're all set.

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