Comments Thread For: Golovkin on Brook: This is Biggest Test For Me, Biggest Fight

[mathed]

Dawsons just beat Hopkins and called out Ward at 168 ******. Ward didn't ask him to come down. Kessler is better than anybody on pussie g's resume period. Abraham is as well.

Ward is fighting Kovalev November 19th in Las Vegas, 2016 unless Kovalev does something to get out of the fight. If you have confidence that Ward won't take the fight. Stop talking, shut your bytch ass up and put your account on the line that Ward won't fight Kovalev in 2016?

If you don't feel that confident to take the bet, shut the fuuck up and sit your bytch ass in the corner and be quiet until you grow some nuts and believe in the shyt you say punk.

My honest opinion is it was definitely a set up by HBO and other people, too. It was set up for me to come in at 168. I would be vulnerable and they could expose it and he would look good at the same time. That's just my opinion on the whole situation. We could've done it at a catch weight where we both would've been comfortable but they wanted it at 168.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/chad-dawson-calls-loss-andre-ward-hbo-set-184031903.html

[Mr.Fantastic]

Dawsons just beat Hopkins and called out Ward at 168 ******. Ward didn't ask him to come down. Kessler is better than anybody on pussie g's resume period. Abraham is as well.

Ward is fighting Kovalev November 19th in Las Vegas, 2016 unless Kovalev does something to get out of the fight. If you have confidence that Ward won't take the fight. Stop talking, shut your bytch ass up and put your account on the line that Ward won't fight Kovalev in 2016?

If you don't feel that confident to take the bet, shut the fuuck up and sit your bytch ass in the corner and be quiet until you grow some nuts and believe in the shyt you say punk.

He was still drained. No way you can deny that.

I'm not going to put my account. It's a ****** bet. We'll just get another account. Plus I have points, something you don't have.
I already have real money with a friend that Ward and Kovalev won't happen this year. That's much better than a ****** account bet.

[Sweet_Science2]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/chad-dawson-calls-loss-andre-ward-hbo-set-184031903.html

It's easy to say that after you get the shyt beat out of you. He called out Ward at 168 after the Hopkins fight. Ward whooped that ass end of story.

[Sweet_Science2]

He was still drained. No way you can deny that.

I'm not going to put my account. It's a ****** bet. We'll just get another account. Plus I have points, something you don't have.
I already have real money with a friend that Ward and Kovalev won't happen this year. That's much better than a ****** account bet.

Well put real money up against me that Ward and Kovalev won't happen this year becaucse of WARD. stop talking shyt and put $500.00 on paypal that it won't happen. I got mine ready right now what's up?

If not shut your bytch ass up

[Mr.Fantastic]

Well put real money up against me that Ward and Kovalev won't happen this year becaucse of WARD. stop talking shyt and put $500.00 on paypal that it won't happen. I got mine ready right now what's up?

If not shut your bytch ass up

I wouldn't bet with someone I don't know. If I knew you, I'd bet you easily.

It's not going to happen. Watch!! If it does, you can come back to this and talk your shit.

[Sweet_Science2]

I wouldn't bet with someone I don't know. If I knew you, I'd bet you easily.

It's not going to happen. Watch!! If it does, you can come back to this and talk your shit.

I'm not that petty. So much shyt will happen between now and November that I wouldn't care to come back to talk shyt.

[aboutfkntime]

I've been away for a day or too but that long of a reply deserves some kind of response at least. I think you are too far to the right on your slider. The only person I would say that Golovkin ducked is Ward and even then there are valid reasons from both a sporting pov and a commercial pov. The others you mention; well, I don't know why you even mention Mora? Jacobs is fighting him and there is zero interest. Cotto never ever had any intention of fighting Gennady.
Is Golovkin manufactured? Bringing out your sliding scale again, "yes, somewhat". 3 years ago Golovkin was largely unheard of. But he was already a champion and more than halfway through his KO streak. That he has continued to KO all level 2 and 3 opponents in front of him is highly eye-catching. Before Team GGG said he is avoided, the boxing media, and now the general media started painting him as a "monster" scaring off other boxers to the hills. The boxing media created the hype. So the boxing media and now mainstream media have played a large part in "manufacturing" him. Golovkin has just gone about doing what he does against whoever is put in front of him. I'm sure he was hoping and expecting to fight Eubank but then took Brook.
On another note, and linked to my other posts. Boxing needs stars if it is to stay relevant. The alternative would be for it to end up off tv screens and poorly promoted with mismatches being the norm. So as boxing fans we should be happy when new stars emerge, manufactured or not.
What bothers many on these boards is that more skilled fighters like Ward get a fraction of the acclaim of Golovkin. Mix that in with the fact Golovkin looks white and Ward is black and the injustice is compounded in their minds. But that is not necessarily true. Tyson got more hype than Golovkin is getting now. Principally because he was at HW and even more destructive. Bruno got much hype in the UK until his first loss. Joshua is the biggest star in the UK right now. That has always been the way in boxing. Stardom needs casuals on the train and nothing captures a casual's interest more than a hyped KO artist.

" somewhat " ?

Despite promising us the world ("anyone from 154-168") for FOUR YEARS, Golovkin delivered absolutely NOTHING.....

.... Team Golovkin categorically stated that Gennady would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154..... and just over a year ago they promised to give Canelo a catchweight..... "We’ve always said that if there is a compelling fight, Gennady would move up or down..... if it’s Canelo, then I’m sure that we could work out a catchweight....."

They are CLEARLY matching Golovkin up with guys he can beat.

They are taking the fights they want, and they are passing on the rest, just like every other fighter.

Golovkin is the EXACT OPPOSITE to what they promised us he was.

But props to you for at least admitting that Golovkin is manufactured.

peace

[aboutfkntime]

I've been away for a day or too but that long of a reply deserves some kind of response at least. I think you are too far to the right on your slider. The only person I would say that Golovkin ducked is Ward and even then there are valid reasons from both a sporting pov and a commercial pov. The others you mention; well, I don't know why you even mention Mora? Jacobs is fighting him and there is zero interest. Cotto never ever had any intention of fighting Gennady.
Is Golovkin manufactured? Bringing out your sliding scale again, "yes, somewhat". 3 years ago Golovkin was largely unheard of. But he was already a champion and more than halfway through his KO streak. That he has continued to KO all level 2 and 3 opponents in front of him is highly eye-catching. Before Team GGG said he is avoided, the boxing media, and now the general media started painting him as a "monster" scaring off other boxers to the hills. The boxing media created the hype. So the boxing media and now mainstream media have played a large part in "manufacturing" him. Golovkin has just gone about doing what he does against whoever is put in front of him. I'm sure he was hoping and expecting to fight Eubank but then took Brook.
On another note, and linked to my other posts. Boxing needs stars if it is to stay relevant. The alternative would be for it to end up off tv screens and poorly promoted with mismatches being the norm. So as boxing fans we should be happy when new stars emerge, manufactured or not.
What bothers many on these boards is that more skilled fighters like Ward get a fraction of the acclaim of Golovkin. Mix that in with the fact Golovkin looks white and Ward is black and the injustice is compounded in their minds. But that is not necessarily true. Tyson got more hype than Golovkin is getting now. Principally because he was at HW and even more destructive. Bruno got much hype in the UK until his first loss. Joshua is the biggest star in the UK right now. That has always been the way in boxing. Stardom needs casuals on the train and nothing captures a casual's interest more than a hyped KO artist.

this is actually a pretty good post, some very good points.

props ^^

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