Beterbiev is just a beast..

[Sun_Tzu]

A lot more impressed by Gvozdyk & Bivols skillsets personally but people be suckers for punchers yo.

nah, You dont have to knock em all out for me but Im partial to an aggressive fighter.

[285Kid]

Need to fight somebody like a

Joe Smith Jr
Andrzej Fonfara
Felix Valera
Dmitry Bivol
David Benavidez
Yunieski Gonzalez

[1g5a22]

I'd love Oleksandr Gvozdyk vs Jeremy Corbyn! Jezza's got a great left..

[dan_cov]

Nothing screams special from Bivol.. At least not yet.

Gvozdyk is the real deal now, that dude can fight.

Bivol is still only 25 & he has fought a very wide variety of styles and seriously awkward opposition for a fighter only 7 fights in and he has been flawless.

Most of these LHWs aren't peaking until they're about 30.

What I like the most about him is his ability to mix up his shots unlike a lot of Eastern European fighters he doesn't throw everything with full power & he seems comfortable at all ranges which is where I feel a lot of these Eastern European punchers will come undone. They're either out-fighters or mid-range hookers and not comfortable at close quarters.
Too reliant on their power, this kid has a very high ring I.Q & his team aren't matching him vs guys to keep a K.O streak alive, they're putting him in with very durable and awkward seasoned fighters who will only serve him well long term. What can you learn from bombing out guys in 2 rounds really?

Would love to see these guys Beterbiev, Kovalev, Bivol, Gvozdyk, Mekhontsev etc etc matching up against each other down the line.

[g27region]

I highlighted the only important thing there. You're talking on average which would be true, but to say it's impossible (like you did) for someone born in an urban environment is mythological.

I've had to choose different words. Yes, a person who's extraordinary strong can be born in any place of the planet, but for average Russian that would be really hard to compare to average chechen in that aspect. And I'm Russian so I know what I'm talking about

I highlighted the only important thing there. You're talking on average which would be true, but to say it's impossible (like you did) for someone born in an urban environment is mythological. I agree that someone who eats clean is going to be better. But they said all that stuff about provodnikov eating raw dear hearts and living in the mountains hunting bears and all that shi, then Matthysse kicked his arse.

Well, that wasn't a strongman competition or something like that, Matthysse won because Provodnikov sucks as a boxer. And he's actually might be the opposite of what I'm talking about. Provodnikov never lived in mountainous area, he's native siberian and he grew up in some small town in Sibera. These people never been known for their physical strenght, and Siberia is probably one of the worst environment to grow up in, with climate conditions more suitable for polar bears. That environment can hardly be considered healthy. On top of that, these small villages in Siberia inhabited with native Siberians (like Provodnikov) has such a high alcohol consumption and murder rates that they make other Russian cities pale in comparison. People who live in these places, they're usually tough minded and crazy though, but there's nothing more than that about them.

Aren't Chechnyans considered Russians?

See, in English language, the word "Russian" means both ethnicity and nationality, which is obviously wrong. There's more than 130 native ethnicities living in Russia, but that doesn't mean they're "Russians" ethnically. In Russian language, the word "русский" means Russian as an ethnicity and the word "россиянин" means Russian as a nationality. Chechens coming from different ethnic origin than ethnic Russians (they're part of rare Nakh ethnicity), but since they're living in Russia, they're Russians by their nationality

For the most part yes, but many are ******s and Russian generally hate ******s

That's actually not true. Some people don't like ******s, just like some ******s don't like orthodox Christians for their own reasons, but not to the point where you can say we generally hate them

I guarantee Kovalev knocks Beterbiev out. Quote this, bookmark it, whatever!

Maybe. Because Kovalev is a better boxer with more experience,not because he's physically stronger

[dan_cov]

I personally don't like what I've seen from Beterbiev his defense is non existent. He has big problems with movement and looks awfully one dimensional & one paced to me.
He just isn't ticking the right boxes for me. His power can bail him out but for how long?

I don't think he is anywhere near Golovkin, Kovalev and the likes level. He reminds me actually of the second coming of Chakhkiev - Lethal offensively and looks great when its at his preferred range and at his pace but very questionable stamina, gas tank, defense, no real ring I.Q
Just a seek & destroy fighter, nice fan friendly style but with no plan B.

Good job his fight with Chilemba fell through for whatever reason I think he'd of got badly exposed in that. A step way too soon.

[New England]

I personally don't like what I've seen from Beterbiev his defense is non existent. He has big problems with movement and looks awfully one dimensional & one paced to me.
He just isn't ticking the right boxes for me. His power can bail him out but for how long?

I don't think he is anywhere near Golovkin, Kovalev and the likes level. He reminds me actually of the second coming of Chakhkiev - Lethal offensively and looks great when its at his preferred range and at his pace but very questionable stamina, gas tank, defense, no real ring I.Q
Just a seek & destroy fighter, nice fan friendly style but with no plan B.

Good job his fight with Chilemba fell through for whatever reason I think he'd of got badly exposed in that. A step way too soon.

you are discounting the size and power if you compare him to rakhim chakiev. never thought that guy was all that potent.

beterbiev is a bonafide knockout puncher, significantly harder than kovalev from what i have seen.

[1g5a22]

Beterbiev is a LHW Golovkin.

[g27region]

beterbiev is a bonafide knockout puncher, significantly harder than kovalev from what i have seen.

I actually think that Beterbiev (and Stevenson) got better chances at beating Ward, since both of them have that 1 punch knockout power while Kovalev needs to land a good combination to hurt his opponent

[New England]

I actually think that Beterbiev (and Stevenson) got better chances at beating Ward, since both of them have that 1 punch knockout power while Kovalev needs to land a good combination to hurt his opponent

i think kovalev's straight right hand is definitely enough to hurt opponent or even put them out with one shot. just needs to have the right extension. left hook to the body is the same way. they need to be perfect shots, and he's capable of throwing them and setting them up. great, great puncher, even if he's not quite as "powerful," if that makes any sense.

beterbiev's size affords him a bit more wiggle room. he looks like he can hurt you when you have your gloves up, when you're moving away, etc. the guy just looks superhuman strong at that weight, and i think a lot of it comes down to size.