Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis on Tyson Fury: He Moves Like Muhammad Ali

[bud newman]

Working through prejudice

youre right, long arms travel further and it takes a lot to throw fast BUT, there is no comparison between Ali and this *****...none.
We can all hop around when we know the other fighter has just frozen, why this happened to the klit we will never know but be assured the rematch will not be ali vs liston II.

Thanks for acknowledging the technical point re the physics of punching, my friend.
You picked up the potential parallel with Ali-Liston 2 as well, and I'm sure you know how experts then were dismissing the first fight as a fluke. The biggest thing we can notice here, though in my opinion, is the parallel between the days when African Americans were commonly derided with derogatory terms and our present acceptance of derogatory terms for poor white people, i.e., "*****". How the poor Irish Gypsies are so long-acquainted with such bigotry is reflected in the fact that we can be self-deprecating and even jokingly refer to ourselves as such. We need a similar revolution as that which Ali helped for his oppressed poor folk, and Fury is part of it, no doubt, regardless of his future.
Perhaps the only the rise of really skilled athletes arising from the discriminated groups challenges us to question our stereotypes. This does actually translate into moves which were evolved since prehistoric times that even our great idol Ali never mastered. From 'the old country',from whence Marquis of Q evolved, actually.

[bud newman]

Prejudice

The "p" word is the new "n" word?

[juggernaut666]

I took it off because I am merciful to those who are ****** through no fault of their own. Now I realise you are choosing ignorance. I'll tell you about jabs again. AJ will not jab his way into range against fury. Fury's jab is great and he will catch AJ coming in. Simple as that. AJ doesn't move like mike tyson LOL. I'm getting tired of you now so every time I see you I'm just going to remind you of the time you said come-forward pressure fighters are Wlads weakness. I still chuckle now. Wlad just got beat by a guy who is probably one of the only non-pressure fighters he's fought in the last 10 years LOL... Even the posters in the thread you said it in were laughing their asses off and you ignored anyone who tried to tell you.

you took it off bc I made you look like a FOOL...heres more EDUCATION..on Tyson/ Joshua comparison since you brought it up...Joishua has a a 82 inch reach and is a big man/insider fighter at his disposal,so im not exactly sure why you thought Tyson..."MIKE" the real Tyson was going to make you LOOK smart?

Wlads Weakness would be that who thosae reach him...and can fluster him...I have yet to see ANYONE come to your aid and say othersise of those who THINK out boxing him on the outside is a good idea,b/c its not and even FURY landed the clear shots while pressuring him when outside ones didn't exactly land ,and he had a 85 inch reach you IDIOT,,,,so please tell me how im wrong on ANY assessment compared to your IDIOCY? lmao...You wont so tag in your other account so I can bury that one too...I wasn't comparing Tyson to AJ I was comparing JABS that you said were measured by LENGTH of effectiveness...you are literally to dumb to comprehend ...hence two accounts...

P.s did you also figure out the ankle is part of the foot ?

[Ham Porter]

You all need to get over your little fanboy childhood crush' in Muhammad ali and mike Tyson. Those guys were great but fought in a different era. Wake up and realize todays fighters have better nutrition combined with the fact they are bigger and faster.

[Yaconcha]

Thanks for acknowledging the technical point re the physics of punching, my friend.
You picked up the potential parallel with Ali-Liston 2 as well, and I'm sure you know how experts then were dismissing the first fight as a fluke. The biggest thing we can notice here, though in my opinion, is the parallel between the days when African Americans were commonly derided with derogatory terms and our present acceptance of derogatory terms for poor white people, i.e., "*****". How the poor Irish Gypsies are so long-acquainted with such bigotry is reflected in the fact that we can be self-deprecating and even jokingly refer to ourselves as such. We need a similar revolution as that which Ali helped for his oppressed poor folk, and Fury is part of it, no doubt, regardless of his future.
Perhaps the only the rise of really skilled athletes arising from the discriminated groups challenges us to question our stereotypes. This does actually translate into moves which were evolved since prehistoric times that even our great idol Ali never mastered. From 'the old country',from whence Marquis of Q evolved, actually.

That was very well explained however, tyson fury does not make verbal moves to defend his "people" infact, all he does is tar them with the same brush that HE himself is contaminating with slurs on either religion or sexual gender. furthermore, It would be extremely difficult (here in the uk) to warm to a group of people who in large part have a brand as thieves and tax dodgers. I have in my life met and been partially involved with this group and I cannot hold up either hand and count fingers to reflect the numbers of good people amongst them.
I personally do not believe any slurs on "irish gypsies" or "*****s" to be racially driven at all, It is an insult for sure but, only a way of life that these days few of them (that call themselves gypsies) actually follow in terms of being a "traveller".