Where do you place Brook p4p with GGG win?

[Scipio2009]

Haha Jacobs has the ugly KO loss to Pirog on his ledger. Your using that to build up his resume? He is the one top ranked fighter in the division who has a crappier resume then GGG. Proksa was probably a top ten rated win as well. Its too bad Pirog/GGG never happened. It would have been a war.

just because you want to ignore the fact that Golovkin has been fighting dog**** for the last 4 years, doesn't mean that everyone else will be willing to.

[Scipio2009]

Lemiuex would KO Jacobs, Eubank jr and Lee. I think Monroe Jr would give all those guys major problems as well.

GGG fought TONS of elite amateurs and pretty much dominated all of them. Now he is doing the exact same thing as a pro. I think that you'll find there is a reason why guys don't want to face him. He trains like an animal and can change gears. It may be a case where he is making pretty good boxers look like they are rubbish because he is more than the robotic brawler that people label him as sometimes.

^^^lol

Lemieux gets put out by Rubio, gets beat by a fading/faded Joachim Alcine, spends the next two years fighting nothing but no-hopers, and can't outbox Hassan N'Dam for 6 rounds (in a fight where he was literally given every boxing advantage), yet folks are supposed to believe that Lemieux simply saws through everyone else?

based on what?

[Dr Rumack]

#1

No need to even discuss it.

[jas]

top 3 .

[mlac]

#2 just behind Tyson Fury.

Is that Fury in your sig bro?

[soul_survivor]

Kell Brook's resume at times has been questioned due to lack of big name opposition. The Shawn Porter win was an A+ win, especially considering he went on to rough up the supposed next big thing in Keith Thurman. Some would say that fight showed Brook is the class of the division. Brook's shots kept Porter at bay, but Porter walked through flush Thurman shots. Brook's win over Porter was clear, Thurman escaped with a controversial Al Haymon decision. Now Brook moves up two full weight classes to take on undefeated unified MW champion boogeyman Golovkin. Where will you place Kell when he outslicks GGG? When he eats the shots of Gennad and keeps coming? When he takes not only takes that funny english speaking guy to town and shows him a superior form of speaking in a comically unpleasant way? I'd say this puts him right behind Ward in the #2 spot P4P.

Itd be difficult to not have him at one, considering he would have done what defines p4p. Jump up 13lb, to fight a bigger, stronger opponent who is currently primed. Champ in 1 division fighting champ in another, both at their best.

That's of course if Fury doesn't annihilate Wlad or Ward/Kov doesn't end with one guy dominating the other.

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Is that Fury in your sig bro?

Nah mate, just some randomer from YouTube.

[TOBYLEE1]

Kell Brook's resume at times has been questioned due to lack of big name opposition. The Shawn Porter win was an A+ win, especially considering he went on to rough up the supposed next big thing in Keith Thurman. Some would say that fight showed Brook is the class of the division. Brook's shots kept Porter at bay, but Porter walked through flush Thurman shots. Brook's win over Porter was clear, Thurman escaped with a controversial Al Haymon decision. Now Brook moves up two full weight classes to take on undefeated unified MW champion boogeyman Golovkin. Where will you place Kell when he outslicks GGG? When he eats the shots of Gennad and keeps coming? When he takes not only takes that funny english speaking guy to town and shows him a superior form of speaking in a comically unpleasant way? I'd say this puts him right behind Ward in the #2 spot P4P.

It will place him #1. Going up two weight classes to fight one of the most dangerous fighters in boxing can't be ignored.

But you are wrong with that performance of the Porter fight. He did win but he did a lot of holding, annoying fight that he shows some brilliance but the ref allowed him to hold too much when Thurman actually decided to fight him.

Triangle theories do not work in boxing

[mani1]

Was Buster Dougles p4p number 1 when he destroyed Iron Mike?

[therealpugilist]

What has Gonzales done to rival anything even remotely close to a GGG win?

1 big win isnt better than an overall body of work....Chocolatito has kicked azz from 105-112 and will be fighting at 115 soon and is still undefeated...he also wins in dominating fashion most of the time.


Also GGG is highly unproven himself in comparison to other big name top fighters today. Whether its his fault or not, fighters are judged by who they fight and the risks they take and GGG and Brook have not fought a lot of top guys so this fight regardless of who wins, doesnt really affect the p4p scheme to me

neither are top ten p4p in my book when its fighters with comparable talent and far better resumes in the game. If he did beat ggg I'D say lower top ten

I remember in the early 2000s and late 90s they flip flop p4p because of 1 big win....even though roy jones was clearly the best fighter in the world until november 8th 2003 when he started to clearly decline and barely got by Tarver...before that they had hopkins, trinidad, mosley, dlh all number one some time during 1999-2003 even though Jones did things in the ring they couldnt do and none were close to him in talent

one big win isnt enough to become number 1 p4p or p4p period its the overall body of work