Kell Brook is brave but Saunders & Jacobs are afraid?

[Scipio2009]

Was it belt that Lemeuix had or not? You specifically said "Golovkin never actually beat anyone for any of his belts" when clearly I just proved you wrong since he did wim Lemeuix's belt.

I mean, if you want to play that game we can go though all the champions who won belts and discredit any of those belts if their opponent won a vacant title. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Jesus Christ man, we know you don't like Golovkin you've made that clear a long time ago, but this is just ******ed.





Where did I even mention anything about achievements

You stated Golovkin never won a belt by beating someone, I simply proved you wrong. That's it.

Golovkin has three belts. Two he got because ******* ducked him, one he got from beating Lemeuix. Those are the facts. Anything else you're rambling about is irrelevant.

In my mind, the scenario behind Golovkin beating Lemieux for his belt is no different from Golovkin beating Rubio for his "belt".

call it what you want.

[SplitSecond]

Brook is probably a bigger catch and he deserves more money because he's taking more risk than the middleweight champions fighting other middleweight champions.

[ИATAS]

In my mind, the scenario behind Golovkin beating Lemieux for his belt is no different from Golovkin beating Rubio for his "belt".

call it what you want.

I call that ******ity then. He didn't win a world champion title from Rubio he got an interim belt, i.e mandatory status to the WBC world title.

Lemeuix was the IBF world title champion when Golovkin fought him.

No shame in admitting you were wrong. You stated something that was simply incorrect, I corrected you, there was no need to make it about something else.

[ИATAS]

Brook is probably a bigger catch and he deserves more money because he's taking more risk than the middleweight champions fighting other middleweight champions.

Plus it doesn't even matter what Brook deserves or not , that's the deal his Promoter Eddie Hearn got for him. If Jacobs or Eubank want that kind of cash, they should ask their promoters why they aren't getting them big deals like that.

[R_Walken]

I think Saunders asked for 3 million or something like that but everyone on here said he was a b.itch and was ducking , Was it high probably but he has the 1 last thing k2/GGG claim to want. Well that belt is Probably going to get him that $ fight with Canelo where he'll make that if not more for a easier fight. If k2 wants these names they're going to have to pay up. The $ there Brook just proved that

I don't knonw if its because K2 is too small to get sh.it done and have to rely on HBo , incompetent , greedy or cheap. K2 has done a great job building. The brand of GGg but if they want the names they're going to have to pay them good $ and offering them what they've already made or a little bit more isn't going to do it.

It has nothing to do with being scared it getting financially all you can in probably one if not the toughest fight of your life for these 160lbers

[Motorcity Cobra]

I think Saunders asked for 3 million or something like that but everyone on here said he was a b.itch and was ducking , Was it high probably but he has the 1 last thing k2/GGG claim to want. Well that belt is Probably going to get him that $ fight with Canelo where he'll make that if not more for a easier fight. If k2 wants these names they're going to have to pay up. The $ there Brook just proved that

I don't knonw if its because K2 is too small to get sh.it done and have to rely on HBo , incompetent , greedy or cheap. K2 has done a great job building. The brand of GGg but if they want the names they're going to have to pay them good $ and offering them what they've already made or a little bit more isn't going to do it.

It has nothing to do with being scared it getting financially all you can in probably one if not the toughest fight of your life for these 160lbers

Great post.

[cork]

I think Saunders asked for 3 million or something like that but everyone on here said he was a b.itch and was ducking , Was it high probably but he has the 1 last thing k2/GGG claim to want. Well that belt is Probably going to get him that $ fight with Canelo where he'll make that if not more for a easier fight. If k2 wants these names they're going to have to pay up. The $ there Brook just proved that

I don't knonw if its because K2 is too small to get sh.it done and have to rely on HBo , incompetent , greedy or cheap. K2 has done a great job building. The brand of GGg but if they want the names they're going to have to pay them good $ and offering them what they've already made or a little bit more isn't going to do it.

It has nothing to do with being scared it getting financially all you can in probably one if not the toughest fight of your life for these 160lbers

You seem level headed so I'll ask you a question. What would happen if ggg said I won't fight "insert name" unless he's compensated properly? Their would be a ****storm about him ducking but when it comes to other people it's ok for them for some reason I'm not sure. Why not just beat the best and then build your own brand instead of piggy backing on someone's else success?

[Motorcity Cobra]

You seem level headed so I'll ask you a question. What would happen if ggg said I won't fight "insert name" unless he's compensated properly? Their would be a ****storm about him ducking but when it comes to other people it's ok for them for some reason I'm not sure. Why not just beat the best and then build your own brand instead of piggy backing on someone's else success?

It depends on who he's fighting and what he's offered. You can't expect him to fight Ward or Canelo for the same money he'll get fighting Dominic Wade. That's ridiculous. When Oscar said the split should be 90/10 everybody called B.S.

[brettWall]

Yeah. That's all it is. Saunders and Jacobs have already told themselves they're not going to win, "I can't fight that animal. You're going to have to pay me good before entering the ring with him." It doesn't matter whether you call them cowards or not. That's for people to decide. Perception is perception. You can't change it.

[R_Walken]

You seem level headed so I'll ask you a question. What would happen if ggg said I won't fight "insert name" unless he's compensated properly? Their would be a ****storm about him ducking but when it comes to other people it's ok for them for some reason I'm not sure. Why not just beat the best and then build your own brand instead of piggy backing on someone's else success?

That's image of GGG doesn't fit the PR that his team has developed for him. It wouldn't make sense for the man that is the most feared man in boxin to ask for more $$. The image portrayed is GGG just fights for legacy and Money is of little concern. Which is BS. GGG teams are about business like every other fighters team. If it was about chasing greatness Theyd put him in with Ward long ago. Lara would be in the discussion. They wouldn't have accepted step aside fees , they would have forced the fight immediately big fights build legacy not step aside fees.

GGG apoears to be head and shoulders above every figher at 160. Why would he say he won't fight unless he gets xxxx amount. He's going to be heavily favoured, he'll take his 1-2 mil, lay a beat down and keep it moving with his momentum still rolling. But the 160s he's fighting would seem to be in the toughest challenge of their career why risk whatever leverage they have( Saunders last remaining belt & 0 , Jacobs his Jr. strap and 0 ) for short $. this is probably one of their few opportunities for a decent payday and if they lose as expected they have a chance to have their career turn into Willie Monroe Jr. Who got what 50k after it was said and done , a a$$ kicking and put on the shelf for year and having to start from the bottom all over again.

This fallacy of David going against Goliath and pulling off the upset is a great bedtime story but in the real world it rarely ever happens. It's usually turns out more like Tyson vs Mcneely not Tyson vs Douglas