Comments Thread For: Golovkin Says No Move To 168 Until All Belts at 160 Are His

[Code Red]

Seriously what is wrong with that goal? People just hate others doing well. This is why Floyd and Manny get hate and now your seeing it with GGG; all 3 will go down in the history books as great champions.

What's wrong with that goal is that he is 34 and still hasn't accomplished S**t!!!

[R-C]

People that criticized Cinnamon, should be criticizing GGG also. The only excuse is that he wants all the belts, but the belts are worthless when 75% of them were handed to him outside the ring and has no value since it wasn't earned.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Been saying this all along - GGG wants to unify the division.

Honorable athlete.

G's Middleweight division run will have an asterisk, I guarantee you.

He holds three belts.

Three of his past title wins were for vacant titles.
One was a title that doesn't exist anymore.

Two of his current titles were legit wins that I give him credit for - Lemieux and Rubio - both quality fighters that simply got beat down.

But the problem is, he will forever be linked to the fact that he didn't beat all of the middleweights he could have. Excuses aside.

If your priority is to prove you're the best, then accept whatever terms they want in exchange for a fight - fight those people say you can't beat (which is the way Calzaghe went), or at least fight those who beat the ones people say you can't beat (which is the way TBE went).

If your priority is just belts, that's fine. But then you have the asterisk.

[hitking]

The ironic thing about most of GGG's apologist. That defend every move he makes with belts, and quest for the belts. Is that lost of these same fans criticize damn near every move Floyd Mayweather made. If the belts are the tell all, end all, they should worship Floyd. Because pretty much every opponent he had, had some kinda belt implication.

Pacquiao: unification fight

First Maidana fight: unification fight

Canelo: reigning WBC/WBA 154 champ (feel free to criticize catchweight)

Guerrero: mandatory

Cotto: reigning WBA 154 champ

Ortiz: reigning WBC champ

Mosley: reigning WBA champ

DLH: reigning WBC 154 champ

Baldomir: reigning WBC champ

Judah: reigning IBF champ

Gatti: reigning WBC 140 champ

Castillo: reigning WBC 135 champ

Corrales:would have been unification had Chico not been unjustly stripped

Genaro Hernandez: reigning WBC 130 champ

And there's no telling how many mandatories Floyd made as 130 champ. Even thr Bruseles and Chop Chop fights at 140 were elimnators to become Gatti's mandatory. Much like the Rubio fight was for GGG.

So I ask. If belts are the tell all, end all when it comes to GGG and his career. How can you criticize Floyd when damn near all his fights were either unifications, fightinf reigning world champions, fighting eliminators to become a mandatory himself, or fighting mandatories to keep his title? Things that make you say hmmmmm.

[Weltschmerz]

G's Middleweight division run will have an asterisk, I guarantee you.

He holds three belts.

Three of his past title wins were for vacant titles.
One was a title that doesn't exist anymore.

Two of his current titles were legit wins that I give him credit for - Lemieux and Rubio - both quality fighters that simply got beat down.

But the problem is, he will forever be linked to the fact that he didn't beat all of the middleweights he could have. Excuses aside.

If your priority is to prove you're the best, then accept whatever terms they want in exchange for a fight - fight those people say you can't beat (which is the way Calzaghe went), or at least fight those who beat the ones people say you can't beat (which is the way TBE went).

If your priority is just belts, that's fine. But then you have the asterisk.

Pleasing everybody becomes difficult when fighters consistently avoid you throughout the latter part of your career. When this happens, Golovkin is doing what a real champion should do: remain active and possibly be en route to surpassing the mark for most successful consecutive middleweight defenses in the history of the sport. He still has a few prime years left during which he can beat names (Jacobs, Saunders, Canelo, etc.), as long as they actually step in the ring with him. It takes two to tango and GGG never ducked an opponent in his career - and never will. He's the type of fighter that fights everybody; a rare breed these days.

[hitking]

Pleasing everybody becomes difficult when fighters consistently avoid you throughout the latter part of your career. When this happens, Golovkin is doing what a real champion should do: remain active and possibly be en route to surpassing the mark for most successful consecutive middleweight defenses in the history of the sport. He still has a few prime years left during which he can beat names (Jacobs, Saunders, Canelo, etc.), as long as they actually step in the ring with him. It takes two to tango and GGG never ducked an opponent in his career - and never will. He's the type of fighter that fights everybody; a rare breed these days.

You're absolutely correct. No one should criticize GGG for the situation he's in when it comes to the middleweight division. The top guys there don't wanna fight him. It's pathetic.

That said, you when the boat when you say, "GGG fights everybody." Because he doesn't. When it comes to anything that's gonna take him outta his comfort zone, he's as selective as everyone else. We can go back and forth till the cows come home. But the fact is, when Ward came calling, Team GGG came with one excuse after another. GGG wasn't willing to fight Froch at 172. Which didn't look nearly as bad then as it does now. Considering he's willing to fight a guy making a 13lb jump, but didn't wanna make a 12lb jump himself. He won't fight Lara because of Haymon. But he fought Wade, who's represented by Haymon.

Like I said, what's going on with him in the middleweight division is pathetic. That said, him being a total hypocrite makes its hard for somebody like me, who's not a diehard fan of his, to feel any sympathy for the guy.

[THC]

So I ask. If belts are the tell all, end all when it comes to GGG and his career. How can you criticize Floyd when damn near all his fights were either unifications, fightinf reigning world champions, fighting eliminators to become a mandatory himself, or fighting mandatories to keep his title? Things that make you say hmmmmm.

When was the last time Floyd stopped 22 consecutive opponents?

I have mad respect for Mayweather's skills, but above 140, his entertainment value for the money was painfully low.

Anyway, I don't care about Golovkin's belt quest. I just want him to be tested in solid fights. To be fair, potential opponents just haven't allowed their testicles to descend. Because until that happens, we're not going to see GGG's entire skill set.

[Curtiz]

bru if u can sell kell brook u can sell DEGALE...

degale would stop GGG

surprised nobody has mentioned this fight

also i think direll deals with ggg too

[hitking]

When was the last time Floyd stopped 22 consecutive opponents?

I have mad respect for Mayweather's skills, but above 140, his entertainment value for the money was painfully low.

Anyway, I don't care about Golovkin's belt quest. I just want him to be tested in solid fights. To be fair, potential opponents just haven't allowed their testicles to descend. Because until that happens, we're not going to see GGG's entire skill set.

Are you saying KOs over weak opposition trumps outclassing elite and top level competition? I'm pretty sure I could ride around my city today and find 22 girls that I could KO. Does that mean I can fight. You have to dig pretty deep into Floyd's resume to find opponents as weak as what GGG has fought consistently through his career.

As for him being tested. How is he gonna be tested if he's only willing to fight guys in his division, which is one of the weakest in boxing? And the only time he's willing to fight outside that weak division is guys moving up in weight? The most recent case being a two division jump.

[Curtiz]

are you saying kos over weak opposition trumps outclassing elite and top level competition? I'm pretty sure i could ride around my city today and find 22 girls that i could ko. Does that mean i can fight. You have to dig pretty deep into floyd's resume to find opponents as weak as what ggg has fought consistently through his career.

As for him being tested. How is he gonna be tested if he's only willing to fight guys in his division, which is one of the weakest in boxing? And the only time he's willing to fight outside that weak division is guys moving up in weight? The most recent case being a two division jump.

preeach!!!!