Like MMA or Not Boxing cold learn a thing or two from them.

[Redd Foxx]

Your talking about last year,,, what has boxing done since...

Biggest star in the sport can't break a million buys in his biggest fight (canelo-cotto)

The 2nd biggest star ggg can't even break 200k..

Hbo and showtime are rapidly reducing budgets for boxing..

Boxing has to pay to be on network tv,, every major mma promotion GETS PAID to be on network tv

Since floyd-manny, ufc's Conor has headlined 3 different million selling PPVs, 2 of which were with last minute opponents, nobody in boxing can even come close to that and Conor is basically doubling up canelo in terms of PPv buys..

Never before in the history of boxing has it been in worse shape

But keep thinking it's healthy and alive... It's the sheep that keep boxing alive..

You don't understand how business works. Boxing doesn't live or die on a 6 month scale. You're playing Jr politician with the other NSBers crying that the sky is falling because this spring was slow. When a joke fight like Canelo Khan can do 400 to 500k, boxing is in good shape. UFC numbers have been equally mediocre in the first half, it's not a sign that ufc is dying either.

[Inoue Body Shot]

Lmao... Most of the success of boxing was made off of one fight- floyd-manny, and it ruined the reputation of boxing to the casuals..

What are these record ratings???? If boxing was truly a ratings draw, it would get paid to be on tv, like every other sport.. Not just the big three

Sports with TV deals
NFL
NBA
Mlb
Soccer
Wnba
Golf
NASCAR
Formula 1
Bellator
Ufc
Njpw
Tna
Wwe
Tennis
College football
College basketball
Hockey


Sports that don't have major TV deals
Boxing

Because PPV maximizes revenue for the very elite in the sport. Hence why Mayweather and Pacquiao were the two highest paid athletes in the sports world for years. You are using a small time frame and blowing it out of proportion. So if Canelo decided to fight Golovkin this September would boxing be in great shape?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You don't understand how business works. You're playing Jr politician with the other NSBers crying that the sky is falling because this spring was slow. When a joke fight like Canelo Khan can do 400 to 500k, boxing is in good shape. UFC numbers have been equally mediocre in the first half, it's not a sign that ufc is dying either.

Lmao..... It's been a year and a half since floyd-manny, and the supposed biggest fight was canelo-cotto,,, doesn't even crack 850k in buys... In no time in the history of PPv boxing has the sport not been able to have at least some big drawing superstars.... Manny and floyd both doubled up what canelo did with cotto.. And canelo is basically all by himself in terms of true superstars,, when has boxing ever had one superstar??

Boxing superstars
Today- canelo, can't crack 850k in his biggest A-side fight vs cotto

Few years ago- floyd, manny

Decade ago- Oscar, tito, vargas, prince, barrera, morales, roy

90s- tyson, holyfield, Oscar, chavez, pernell, lennox, foreman, bowe, roy

80s- tyson, Holmes, leonard, hagler, duran, hearns, Mancini, Camacho, spinks

boxing's star power has dwindled slowly since the early 90s, and now for the first time ever, they have only one legit draw in canelo, and he only does have the numbers his predecessors did...

Doesn't bode well for boxing when canelo-cotto (biggest fight in boxing at the time) does the same numbers as floyd-ghost, basically a stay busy tuneup for floyd..

Boxing is dead in America, people just don't realize it because the corpse is still warm...

I predict by 2020, hbo will be out of the boxing business and alot major fights will be in boxing hotbeds like Canada, Germany, UK, or Japan for the tiny weights.. There will be more money involved,,

Hell anthony Joshua is pulling in canelo type PPv numbers in the UK, wilder can barely sell tickets outside of his hometown, and is nowhere headling a PPv, even though he has been around twice as long as joshua..

amd amateur boxing is at an all time low in America,, won't even have a full team qualify for the Olympics...

Boxing has no one to blame but themselves,,, they have alienated the casual american public

[Tago Nang Tago]

a good friend once told me that MMA is for ex-wrestling fans who converted once they found out wresting was fake.

[Inoue Body Shot]

Lmao..... It's been a year and a half since floyd-manny, and the supposed biggest fight was canelo-cotto,,, doesn't even crack 850k in buys... In no time in the history of PPv boxing has the sport not been able to have at least some big drawing superstars.... Manny and floyd both doubled up what canelo did with cotto.. And canelo is basically all by himself in terms of true superstars,, when has boxing ever had one superstar??

Boxing superstars
Today- canelo, can't crack 850k in his biggest A-side fight vs cotto

Few years ago- floyd, manny

Decade ago- Oscar, tito, vargas, prince, barrera, morales, roy

90s- tyson, holyfield, Oscar, chavez, pernell, lennox, foreman, bowe, roy

80s- tyson, Holmes, leonard, hagler, duran, hearns, Mancini, Camacho, spinks

boxing's star power has dwindled slowly since the early 90s, and now for the first time ever, they have only one legit draw in canelo, and he only does have the numbers his predecessors did...

Doesn't bode well for boxing when canelo-cotto (biggest fight in boxing at the time) does the same numbers as floyd-ghost, basically a stay busy tuneup for floyd..

Boxing is dead in America, people just don't realize it because the corpse is still warm...

I predict by 2020, hbo will be out of the boxing business and alot major fights will be in boxing hotbeds like Canada, Germany, UK, or Japan for the tiny weights.. There will be more money involved,,

Hell anthony Joshua is pulling in canelo type PPv numbers in the UK, wilder can barely sell tickets outside of his hometown, and is nowhere headling a PPv, even though he has been around twice as long as joshua..

amd amateur boxing is at an all time low in America,, won't even have a full team qualify for the Olympics...

Boxing has no one to blame but themselves,,, they have alienated the casual american public

how many ppv buys do you think Kovalev vs Ward will do?

how many ppv buys would you predict for a future Canelo vs Golovkin fight?

[HanzGruber]

Putting silva in is like substituting Shane Mosley to fight golovkin cause canelo hurt his hand in camp. It's not even the main event. ***ing women's fight is the main with side show freak Brock lesnar. Mma is dead

[PensionKiller]

Ufc doesn't seem to help their fighters as much. At least boxers can get their own sponsors

[Redd Foxx]

Lmao..... It's been a year and a half since floyd-manny, and the supposed biggest fight was canelo-cotto,,, doesn't even crack 850k in buys... In no time in the history of PPv boxing has the sport not been able to have at least some big drawing superstars.... Manny and floyd both doubled up what canelo did with cotto.. And canelo is basically all by himself in terms of true superstars,, when has boxing ever had one superstar??

Boxing superstars
Today- canelo, can't crack 850k in his biggest A-side fight vs cotto

Few years ago- floyd, manny

Decade ago- Oscar, tito, vargas, prince, barrera, morales, roy

90s- tyson, holyfield, Oscar, chavez, pernell, lennox, foreman, bowe, roy

80s- tyson, Holmes, leonard, hagler, duran, hearns, Mancini, Camacho, spinks

boxing's star power has dwindled slowly since the early 90s, and now for the first time ever, they have only one legit draw in canelo, and he only does have the numbers his predecessors did...

Doesn't bode well for boxing when canelo-cotto (biggest fight in boxing at the time) does the same numbers as floyd-ghost, basically a stay busy tuneup for floyd..

Boxing is dead in America, people just don't realize it because the corpse is still warm...

I predict by 2020, hbo will be out of the boxing business and alot major fights will be in boxing hotbeds like Canada, Germany, UK, or Japan for the tiny weights.. There will be more money involved,,

Hell anthony Joshua is pulling in canelo type PPv numbers in the UK, wilder can barely sell tickets outside of his hometown, and is nowhere headling a PPv, even though he has been around twice as long as joshua..

amd amateur boxing is at an all time low in America,, won't even have a full team qualify for the Olympics...

Boxing has no one to blame but themselves,,, they have alienated the casual american public

Stopped reading after the first sentence when it became clear you don't know how to operate a calendar.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Because PPV maximizes revenue for the very elite in the sport. Hence why Mayweather and Pacquiao were the two highest paid athletes in the sports world for years. You are using a small time frame and blowing it out of proportion. So if Canelo decided to fight Golovkin this September would boxing be in great shape?

If canelo/ggg fought in September, it would be a step in the right direction, but they won't, and that's the exact reason why boxing isn't popular anymore..

PPv doesn't maximize revenue... Having billion dollar TV deals does... Why does ufc have huge TV deal, plus overall better PPv buys??? So does wwe..
Lots of combat sports have TV deals and PPv,, all except for boxing

Take away floyd-manny, and Conor mccgregor sold more than double all the boxing PPVs in 2015..

How many boxers are gonna make that list of richest athletes over the next couple of years??? How does boxing only have one draw in canelo, and he only does 50% of what manny and floyd use to draw in their day..

Canelo
Kirkland 400k
Cotto 800k
Khan 600k

Conor
Mendes 1 million (last minute replacement)
Aldo 1.5 million
Diaz 1.6 million (last minute replacement)

Thurman Porter been hyped for years, like on prime time fox and does peak 3.7 million viewers

Conor first headline on foxsports1 and it does 3.7 million average..

Ufc will have 3 or 4 different events that easily break a million this year,, boxing will have Ward-kovolev do 300k..

Boxing has only itself to blame,, they ran it into the ground so much, that it's nearly impossible to create new stars..
When ali, frazier, foreman were done, duran, leonard, hagler, Hearns were in the wings, and as they got old, you had tyson, chavez Camacho, and then evander, foreman, lennox, roy, Oscar, tito, vargas, shane, hopkins, barrera, morales, manny, cotto, floyd,, but now we are just down to one true star in canelo, and he is the worst top draw that boxing ever had in the history of boxing

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Stopped reading after the first sentence when it became clear you don't know how to operate a calendar.

Lmao,,,, no rebuttal... May 2015-July 2016 it's been 14 months, not 18.. Sorry, but does that refute any of my points... Lmao..