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Team canelo is holding off golovkin fight hoping golovkin will get "old overnight"
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... any comparison of Canelo with Mayweather is superfluous -- at least Floyd fought some champs at 147 and 154...Originally posted by Hougigo View PostWaiting for him to get old is an added bonus for them.
THey're waiting him out because they saw Mayweather's blue print of making as much money fighting garbage in the interim
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My bad, FLoyd and Pac.Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post... any comparison of Canelo with Mayweather is superfluous -- at least Floyd fought some champs at 147 and 154...
My point being both those men milked the potential fight between the two for as much as they can and only made it when their buy rates turned bad
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What you're saying isn't credible either. Every other day, you guys mention "need". None of these guys fighting NEED each other. Canelo IS developed. If he has any intentions of fighting GGG he would be doing this so called "developing" at 160lbs. Not 154lbs or 155lbs.Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostNot a credible theory. They don't need ggg to make big money. They feel that Canelo needs to develop before facing the top 160lber. They're waiting on Canelo to develop, not ggg to fail.
So yeah, Golden Boy will definitely make the Canelo vs GGG fight if/when they feel GGG has slowed down. That's exactly what they're doing. LOL...
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Originally posted by ИATAS View PostDevelop what? He's been a pro for 11 years, he's at his peak. Further, why fight down? Fighting Amir Khan and now Smith isn't helping him develop and prepare him for top middleweights. You know what would? Fighting actual middleweights.
Canelo and Co are simply fighting who they want, when they want. He can because he's a popular Mexican fighter and can fight anyone he wants. It's worked for them well so far, like fighting Kermit Cintron and Shane Mosley when shot. Fighting Matthew Hatton for a world title. Fighting Angulo after he got stopped twice . Fighting Kirkland when he was so inactive and no longer with Wolfe. And now fighting the weakest link at 154 rather than his mandatory Golovkin or even a top champion at 154.
He's opportunistic and they will continue to be opportunistic. If Golovkin happens to look terrible against Eubank, I'm sure they'll jump all over it. If he looks good, "need more time, not a middleweight yet!"
This ^^^^^.
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You're confused with your "you guys" talk and everything else for that matter. You say he's developed, then saying he would develop at 160 if that was his intention. Oscar says Canelo is a 154lber and is going to fight at his natural weight class for now. There's plenty of fights there and Canelo does great, financially, so he doesn't need Golovkin. This pressure on him to go to 160 is because Golovkin needs a guy who he can have a successful US ppv with. Because Golovkin fans NEED Genady to fight someone with a name that you guys don't feel presents too much of a threat (IE; no one slick). Golovkin fans know his resume is shyte and they were hoping he'd be able to talk the 154 cash cow into coming up to 160. Canelo (after much stalling) finally dropped the belts because he's not ready to fight 160lbers (say what you will, it's fair game). Sorry it didn't work out. I think Genady could clean up 168 but his hardcore fans don't seem to be keen on that.Originally posted by Blue Heffner View PostWhat you're saying isn't credible either. Every other day, you guys mention "need". None of these guys fighting NEED each other. Canelo IS developed. If he has any intentions of fighting GGG he would be doing this so called "developing" at 160lbs. Not 154lbs or 155lbs.
So yeah, Golden Boy will definitely make the Canelo vs GGG fight if/when they feel GGG has slowed down. That's exactly what they're doing. LOL...
I don't think Canelo intends to go to 160 for Golovkin, be it next year or 2 years from now. I think that decision will mostly fall on him being able to make 154. When he can't do that, expect him to go up. His world doesn't revolve around Golovkin and this fight doesn't mean half as much to Canelo as it does Golovkin. That's just a fact, no matter how much it pisses people off.Last edited by Redd Foxx; 07-08-2016, 08:35 AM.
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Apparently. That seems to be the new science. Hardcore Golovkin fans outnumber those who are willing to be rational about the subject so they win. Them's the rules.Originally posted by icha View PostSo in other words, fighters get old and shot at 35 and stop learning, growing and developing at 25...
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And these same lunatics expected a 39 year old fighter two weight divisions down to fight GGG.Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostApparently. That seems to be the new science. Hardcore Golovkin fans outnumber those who are willing to be rational about the subject so they win. Them's the rules.
Fucking unbelievable.
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