Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: We Never Expected To Face Canelo

[Lester Tutor]

As ever your words are strung together roughly according to the rules of grammar and look like there should be some sense to be wrung from them, but yet when I read them I still don't understand what you mean or, at least, what connection you wrote has to what I said.

Its ok. Replies aren't exclusive, but open domain.

[aboutfkntime]

aboutfkntime

How come Abel and Loeffler never talked about any flexibility to negotiate between 155-160? Lil'G fans claim about offers strictly at 155..how come not one industry article had Abel or Loeffler teasing the idea of 156,157,158,159 at the very least? Lil'G fans claim confidence of him at 155. Let's start with the fact thay Nelo invited Lil'G to 155 in 2015 before he fought Cotto, and Golovkin and his team never even responded to anything below 160 which Gennady said 154 is easy but "who can I fight."

This is the worst fumble by Golovkin to show they're all bullshįt. Caus we saw how bigger Lil'G was against Nelo on fight night. If Lil'G rehydrates to 174 consistently, thenthe theory is already proven how Lil'G would cut and drain 20lbs for a 154 fight as a UFC fighter would and on roids. This is why Golovkin always looks gaunt at weigh ins but his fans refuse the reality because they eventually agree "well as long as they make the weight."

Keep in mind Nelo don't be looking gaunt at his pressers like Lil'G... but Alvarez is a "LHW" even though he's smaller than Golovkin on fight night.

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the bottom line is.....

1) they offered Rosado a catchweight.....
2) Sanchez said they would fight Brook at 157.....
3) they offered to fight every other JMW at 154.....

just not Canelo

just like how they were willing to fight every other SMW at 168..... just not Ward

what we know from their recent fight..... is that Canelo would have beaten Golovkin at 155, for no reason other than the weight..... just like I always said

some would call that " well-managed ".....

some would look at the big picture and realize that Golovkin has tip-toed through the tulips..... refusing to enter a fight unless it happens on his (favorable) terms, even if that fight is a huge opportunity against a superstar..... and call it..... "protected"

[TonyGe]

the bottom line is.....

1) they offered Rosado a catchweight.....
2) Sanchez said they would fight Brook at 157.....
3) they offered to fight every other JMW at 154.....

just not Canelo

just like how they were willing to fight every other SMW at 168..... just not Ward

what we know from their recent fight..... is that Canelo would have beaten Golovkin at 155, for no reason other than the weight..... just like I always said

some would call that " well-managed ".....

some would look at the big picture and realize that Golovkin has tip-toed through the tulips..... refusing to enter a fight unless it happens on his (favorable) terms, even if that fight is a huge opportunity against a superstar..... and call it..... "protected"

So you saying it's fine for Canelo to fight over the JM limit and claim to be JM but Golovkin fights inside the rules of boxing but that's not OK. Then you claim Golovkin is the guy that's protected.
And some would call that idiotic..

[aboutfkntime]

So you saying it's fine for Canelo to fight over the JM limit and claim to be JM but Golovkin fights inside the rules of boxing but that's not OK. Then you claim Golovkin is the guy that's protected.
And some would call that idiotic..

FACT: Canelo will obviously fight anyone

but some observers (I will not mention any names) have claimed that Golovkin has avoided a bunch of difficult opponents (mainly mover/spoilers, and world-class boxers) preferring to fight no-hopers and cans..... until he could land that Canelo-money..... and that he will not take a fight unless it happens on his terms

so, are you sure you don't have them mixed up ?

[TonyGe]

FACT: Canelo will obviously fight anyone

but some observers (I will not mention any names) have claimed that Golovkin has avoided a bunch of difficult opponents (mainly mover/spoilers, and world-class boxers) preferring to fight no-hopers and cans..... until he could land that Canelo-money..... and that he will not take a fight unless it happens on his terms

so, are you sure you don't have them mixed up ?

No I don't have them mixed up. Canelo didn't fight either of the Charlos at JM. The guys he did fight had to fight Canelo at a weight he preferred depending on whether he could get them to submit to it.
Fact it's easier for a young boxer to cut weight or gain weight than an older one.
Fact Canelo has been the beneficiary of fixed scoring in the past. And don't tell me he got a draw with Mayweather on a scorecard and it was justified.
Fact : Canelo has been given preferential treatment by the WBC to make the Cotto fight.
Fact: Canelo stabbed the WBC in the back by refusing to fight Golovkin.
Fact: Canelo stabbed his fans and Golovkin in the back by calling out G and then refusing to fight him.
Fact: Canelo made a mess of the Middleweight division by fighting for the title at a catchweight and then refusing to defend said title.
Fact: Canelo made a mess of the JM division by refusing to abide by the rules of boxing and playing Diva.
Fact: Canelo has some of the worst fans in the planet.
Fact: Canelo has red hair so he can do no wrong. LOL

[aboutfkntime]

No I don't have them mixed up. Canelo didn't fight either of the Charlos at JM. The guys he did fight had to fight Canelo at a weight he preferred depending on whether he could get them to submit to it.
Fact it's easier for a young boxer to cut weight or gain weight than an older one.
Fact Canelo has been the beneficiary of fixed scoring in the past. And don't tell me he got a draw with Mayweather on a scorecard and it was justified.
Fact : Canelo has been given preferential treatment by the WBC to make the Cotto fight.
Fact: Canelo stabbed the WBC in the back by refusing to fight Golovkin.
Fact: Canelo stabbed his fans and Golovkin in the back by calling out G and then refusing to fight him.
Fact: Canelo made a mess of the Middleweight division by fighting for the title at a catchweight and then refusing to defend said title.
Fact: Canelo made a mess of the JM division by refusing to abide by the rules of boxing and playing Diva.
Fact: Canelo has some of the worst fans in the planet.
Fact: Canelo has red hair so he can do no wrong. LOL

FACT: your " facts "..... are bullshht

[Chuckguy]

So you saying it's fine for Canelo to fight over the JM limit and claim to be JM but Golovkin fights inside the rules of boxing but that's not OK. Then you claim Golovkin is the guy that's protected.
And some would call that idiotic..

Yes he is a ****** that skews facts to fit his agenda. He won’t mention how canelo made khan go up in weight but he will bash ggg for doing the same thing to Brook. He won’t say sh it about canelo fighting 2-3 years at his made up weight which was a catchwwieght but he bashes ggg for asking for one. The guy truly is ******ed

[TonyGe]

FACT: your " facts "..... are bullshht

Your calling me a Bull****ter. That's the definition of irony.

[aboutfkntime]

Your calling me a Bull****ter. That's the definition of irony.