Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: We Never Expected To Face Canelo

[HeroBando]

So many boxing fans suggested that Alvarez would vacated rather than fight at 160. They said that as the draw Alvarez would be smart to force the fight on his terms. Those same fans were trash talked by many Golovkin fans. Now it turns out that behind all of the talk, K2 believed that Alvarez and GBP would do just that. It doesn't mean that these boxing fans support catchweight fights or even Caneloweight. It just means that if you follow the sport, you recognize that fear and pride don't run boxing....money, legacy, and timing do. And no...you can't separate the three.

For good reason, cause Canelo didn't try to force the fight on any terms, he just surrendered the belt

[Liondw]

Golden Boy Promotions do not want their biggest 'cash cow' to possibly lose now, which could happen if they make the fight with GGG now. It makes business sense, and I don't think Canelo is scared, but it is his promoter's decision. It just looks so bad and embarassing because Canelo called Golovkin to the ring after his ko of Khan. The fight might happen in the future if they know Canelo will get a huge pay day, bigger than what he would get now.

[Bronx2245]

Ran from a 172 pound super middle weight huh? Ward trying to fight a guy 12 pounds less than him is a bitch move and now he is picking on a guy 8 pounds less than him. Chump stays in bitch mode.

October 9, 2015
By Rick Reeno

"According to Loeffler , the offer was rejected because K2 had already finalized Golovkin's upcoming HBO Pay-Per-View fight with Lemieux - and the winner would become the mandatory challenger to the November 21st showdown between WBC champion Miguel Cotto and Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez.

Loeffler indicates that their strategy, since last year, has been to unify the middleweight division.

However, during that period they did explore potential fights at super middleweight with both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

When it came it Ward, Loeffler and Golovkin's trainer Abel Sanchez made it very clear that a catch-weight of 164-pounds would be required. They also feel their boxer deserves a bigger portion of the monetary split. Roc Nation's offer was an even 50-50 deal.

Golovkin came under fire for his catch-weight demand. Loeffler explained that Golovkin fighting at the full weight limit of 168 would only be considered if the event was financially worth the risk. They felt a fight with Ward would not have generated the same financial benefits as a fight with Froch or Chavez...

Michael Yormark, president and chief of branding and strategy for parent company Roc Nation, disputes some of the information being circulated in the press.

The Roc Nation executive reached out to BoxingScene.com to respond, on behalf of his company and their fighter, to some of the published statements from Golovkin's team members.

According to Yormark, Roc Nation was never afforded the opportunity to discuss weight, the financial terms, potential dates, which fighter was the A-side or any other factor - because their offer was turned down in 36 minutes...

"We made him an offer, prior quite frankly, to knowing about the fight with Lemieux. But regardless of that fight, the offer was very, very clear - that he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016. So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016.

"They received the offer and in 36 minutes we got a response which basically stated 'we cannot accept the offer and we're going in a different direction.' In 36 minutes [they turned it down], so that tells me there was not even any consideration given to the offer, because at the end of the day Triple G always knew that he would never fight Andre Ward. He's stated publically, and in writing, that he would go up to 168 to fight anybody but Andre. We put an official offer on the table and we got a 'no' in 36 minutes..."

http://www.boxingscene.com/roc-nation-gggs-team-turned-down-ward-36-minutes--96761?print_friendly=1

Please, let's stop with the "Ward wanted multiple tune-ups..." ONE FIGHT! GGG would fight Lemieux, and Ward would fight ONE TUNE UP, and the fight would have been scheduled for 2016!!! CW demands for Ward, but not Chavez Jr. or Froch! These are the facts! Now he has all the belts, and a BS resume! I repeat, "this was a bit*h move!"

[Nod]

Now Gennady apparently heard about this Ward interview and didn't take it too kindly. Golovkin replied to AllBoxing.ru, which I'm now translating from Russian to English

"Hey, Ward, wake up! Why are you talking trash about other people? Speak for yourself. If you're trying to make a name for yourself by mentioning me to build up your own fight, then be a man about it and tell the truth. At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no. You said something about your shoulder or promoter - I'm not interested in the reason, I only heard your "no." But you remember that HBO said then that they would need a long time to build-up the fight. Then what the **** are you talking about excuses?"

"If you do provocative attacks, do not even think that Loeffler [Gennady's K2 promoter] will buy into them. You haven't been interesting to anyone for a long time, so he will no longer engage in the promotion of your name. Go and build your own image. Although everyone already knows what you are, and because of this, they do not go to your fights."

"You shouldn't worry about who I'm going to box or have boxed. You, like the rest, were lucky with the "Super Six" tournament because you got your opponents by contract. And who are you fighting now? The fourth-fifth ranked fighters in England...If I say that I'm ready to box any middleweight and ready to rise to 168 for a big fight, then I am responsible for the words. And I have nothing left to discuss with you. As a man, you are dead to me."

There is always to sides two a story. Dont be blinded by hatred!

Sounds like Ward stung golovkin in that b.itch place..

[Chrismart]

I was totally convinced that the winner of Cotto/Canelo would vacate before facing Golovkin. Lot's on here were also, from what i recall.

[bojangles1987]

I was ******. I thought Alvarez actually had a set. I rooted for him against Cotto because I thought he was the only chance Golovkin had to become lineal.

Now I know better.

[MC Hammer]

If this was the case then why have they kept pursuing the fight? you got the belt you wanted, but the name BJ Saunders doesn't come up at all. I thought you guys wanted to clear out the division, why are you still pursuing the guy you thought you would never fight in the first place?

[Catrin]

GGG was very Very Clear when he said "just give me my Belt" of course the fight vs canelo was a major payday but all GGG wanted was the belt and as you can see canelo vacated and GGG has not mention his name since! GGG is pure class!

[GGG Gloveking]

October 9, 2015
By Rick Reeno

"According to Loeffler , the offer was rejected because K2 had already finalized Golovkin's upcoming HBO Pay-Per-View fight with Lemieux - and the winner would become the mandatory challenger to the November 21st showdown between WBC champion Miguel Cotto and Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez.

Loeffler indicates that their strategy, since last year, has been to unify the middleweight division.

However, during that period they did explore potential fights at super middleweight with both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

When it came it Ward, Loeffler and Golovkin's trainer Abel Sanchez made it very clear that a catch-weight of 164-pounds would be required. They also feel their boxer deserves a bigger portion of the monetary split. Roc Nation's offer was an even 50-50 deal.

Golovkin came under fire for his catch-weight demand. Loeffler explained that Golovkin fighting at the full weight limit of 168 would only be considered if the event was financially worth the risk. They felt a fight with Ward would not have generated the same financial benefits as a fight with Froch or Chavez...

Michael Yormark, president and chief of branding and strategy for parent company Roc Nation, disputes some of the information being circulated in the press.

The Roc Nation executive reached out to BoxingScene.com to respond, on behalf of his company and their fighter, to some of the published statements from Golovkin's team members.

According to Yormark, Roc Nation was never afforded the opportunity to discuss weight, the financial terms, potential dates, which fighter was the A-side or any other factor - because their offer was turned down in 36 minutes...

"We made him an offer, prior quite frankly, to knowing about the fight with Lemieux. But regardless of that fight, the offer was very, very clear - that he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016. So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016.

"They received the offer and in 36 minutes we got a response which basically stated 'we cannot accept the offer and we're going in a different direction.' In 36 minutes [they turned it down], so that tells me there was not even any consideration given to the offer, because at the end of the day Triple G always knew that he would never fight Andre Ward. He's stated publically, and in writing, that he would go up to 168 to fight anybody but Andre. We put an official offer on the table and we got a 'no' in 36 minutes..."

http://www.boxingscene.com/roc-nation-gggs-team-turned-down-ward-36-minutes--96761?print_friendly=1

Please, let's stop with the "Ward wanted multiple tune-ups..." ONE FIGHT! GGG would fight Lemieux, and Ward would fight ONE TUNE UP, and the fight would have been scheduled for 2016!!! CW demands for Ward, but not Chavez Jr. or Froch! These are the facts! Now he has all the belts, and a BS resume! I repeat, "this was a bit*h move!"

Yes, Wards offer called for one tune up in 2016, however, Ward was already speculated to be on the Cotto-Canelo undercard. This would have made 2 tune ups prior to a GGG fight, hence the term multiple tune ups.

One fighter wanted to fight in 2015, and the other wanted to fight a year later

[Bronx2245]

Yes, Wards offer called for one tune up in 2016, however, Ward was already speculated to be on the Cotto-Canelo undercard. This would have made 2 tune ups prior to a GGG fight, hence the term multiple tune ups.

One fighter wanted to fight in 2015, and the other wanted to fight a year later

ONE FIGHT, then Ward vs. GGG in early 2016! GGG ducked Ward, then fought Dominic Wade, and now he's fighting WW Champion Kell Brook at 160lbs. Like I said "Bit*h Move!!!"