How does SRL top 4 wins compare to Floyds?

[dranoel]

haha
Canelo being one of Floyd's best wins.

Holy sh[it that guy would of got his ass kicked by Duran, so badly.
I say Duran, because I know he would of ducked Hagler, shined the belt, handed it over and kissed the man's feet.
Seriously when you put it in this perspective, it doesn't really look like Floyd can hold SR's jockstrap-- even though I'd think the fight between both would be competitive.

[soul_survivor]

Hagler, Hearns, Duran & Benitez?

Oscar, Pac, Mosley & JMM?

Hearns, Duran and Benitez were all prime and at their absolute peaks. Hagler was slightly post prime but bigger and Leonard was coming off a massive lay off.

The closest to a prime opponent May faced was Pacquiao and he was still some 3 years past his best and on the slide. Not to mention smaller, as was JMM. Mosley was shot and Oscar was a close fight against another post prime opponent.

It's not really comparable. Especially when you compare the nature of the wins.

[big_james10]

Hagler, Hearns, Duran & Benitez?

Oscar, Pac, Mosley & JMM?

In spite of what you and others on this message board think, Floyd did not begin his career at 147. His biggest wins are debatable depending on whether you are basing it on the opponents record, the PPV sales or Floyd's performance in the fight. In my opinion, Floyd's biggest wins were against Diego Corrales and Genaro Hernandez at 130, Arturo Gatti at 140 and Mosley at 147.

[big_james10]

Ray fought all prime dangerous fighters
Floyd fought wash up fighters and a little blown up light weight . You be the judge of that

Bulls...! Hagler was past his prime when Leonard fought him. Leonard lost to Duran (who was never that good to begin with) in the first fight. Leonard was on the verge of losing to Hearns in the first fight when he KO'd Hearns (resulting in the famous comment from his trainer, Angelo Dundee, who told Leonard, "You're blowing it son. You're blowing it.")

Leonard started his career at 147 and fought as high as 168. Floyd started his career at 130 and fought as high as 154. There is no logical comparison between the two of them or their opponents.

[Real King Kong]

In spite of what you and others on this message board think, Floyd did not begin his career at 147. His biggest wins are debatable depending on whether you are basing it on the opponents record, the PPV sales or Floyd's performance in the fight. In my opinion, Floyd's biggest wins were against Diego Corrales and Genaro Hernandez at 130, Arturo Gatti at 140 and Mosley at 147.

Gatti? This was the post-cashed out vs de la hoya reinvented gatti who went life and death with micky ward we're talking about. He was given virtually 0 chance against floyd. Castillo was a bigger win than gatti.

[CatchAndShoot]

Forget the resume srr would havebeat the living **** out of floyd im telling you now.

This, and is this a serious question? SRL's resume takes a hot steaming **** on Floyd's fugazi resume.

[CatchAndShoot]

And as far as all time WW rankings go, I have SRL as the GOAT WW, yes, even ahead of SRR. I don't care what anyone says, SRL was the perfect fighting machine, and a once ever fighter. He's what Russell Westbrook or Derrick Rose would be to boxing, if they were his size.

Hes proven to be able to beat every single style there is, and not only did he prove it, he proved it against legit, elite, HOF, ATG level fighters. No other fighter can make that claim. Not a single one, besides SRL.

[SterlingStained]

all the great names on floyd's resume where all past prime by the time floyd got to them.

THAT'S A FACT.

Floyd has yet to face OR BEAT a legit bona fide hall of fame fighter WHO WAS IN THEIR PRIME.

That is a FACT.

[sunny31]

all the great names on floyd's resume where all past prime by the time floyd got to them.

THAT'S A FACT.

Floyd has yet to face OR BEAT a legit bona fide hall of fame fighter WHO WAS IN THEIR PRIME.

That is a FACT.

No one can argue with this. To me there is a lot of mystique around how good Floyd is, I sometimes think maybe he wanted it that way. To me his dominance over very good fighters can't be overlooked, he was abnormally consistent and very rarely got himself into a competitive fight despite being around the top of the sport for 18 years. Some of that was good match making but in the end he did fight a lot of very good names, but there is certainly a lack of great prime fighters on his resume.

The one thing which rubbed everyone the wrong way though was his reluctance to challenge himself, there was a resistance there to fight the fights people wanted to see when people wanted to see them. I think his insecurity as a person drove much of that behaviour. I wish he fought more fights when they were at their most dangerous. I think this is the main reason the boxing public never warmed to him.

In terms of this thread - its a non-starter as a debate, the two resumes are not comparable at all, Sugar Ray's at the top end is completely on another level, although I would say Floyd has more wins at championship level overall. His record is more dense, but ultimately you are judged by the best fighters you beat, and it doesn't really matter if you beat 50 pretty good fighters, its the real elite wins that people look at.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Floyd's best 4 wins are Corrales, castillo, canelo, Oscar/cotto whichever you prefer..


Leonard craps on nearly everyone's best 4 wins... Only ali and robinson are even remotely in the same ballpark...

Hell, I think manny has a better 4 wins than floyd, one could argue