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  • Boxing Logic
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    #61
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    There were not " just as many red-flags " at all..... that is bull****.

    Props to you for admitting the truth, but attempting to equate the red-flags is stretching to say the least.

    Mayweather had 1 APPROVED TUE...... EVER! And that situation was investigated. The APPROVED TUE proves that the issue was a one-off.

    Not even slightly similar, or even close, to the situation with Pac.

    Honestly, leave it...... because Pac will get shredded and it will unnecessarily open up a whole lot of old wounds..... I am definitely the wrong guy for you to try this on, just leave it.
    Okay Floyd just had one TUE... And Pacquiao just had one negotiation where he said he was scared of needles? How is that not comparable? Floyd actually got caught doing something illegal. Pacquiao just said he didn't want to do testing which may have, or may have not, caught him doing something illegal. So isn't getting caught doing something illegal more definitive proof than avoiding a situation where you might, or might not, get caught doing what you might, or might not, be doing? One is definitive, the other isn't.

    Or how about Pacquiao had Ariza, and that Aussie dude. Floyd had Ariza, and Memo. The Ariza's cancel each other out, and Memo trumps the Aussie dude because it's Memo. We haven't seen the Aussie dude hulk someone out at 40 years old. We did see Memo hulk out Marquez at 40. So we know where the real red flags are at. And didn't Vanes Martirosan say Memo offered him PEDs without even being secret about it because apparently whenever Memo is hired by a fighter, it's supposed to go without saying that it's to get them PEDs, otherwise why would you hire Memo, since that's what he's known for? If you just wanted a strength coach or a nutritional coach, you could hire any of the other good ones who aren't also PED chemists?

    So again it seems like you're biased as hell to say the red flags don't compare. And remember when Floyd settled the Manny lawsuit with a non-disclosure because, it's rumored, he didn't want his positive A-samples released in disclosure or discovery or whatever they call it? That's just one more red flag with Floyd. Or again how he always insisted on USADA? Remember VADA caught one of GBP's fighters, when Schaeffer was running GBP, and then the head of VADA, who was writing for Golden Boy's Ring Magazine at the time doing like a medical column, got fired, VADA got fired from GBP, and they went to USADA. Basically, VADA wouldn't play ball with them, wouldn't cover up tests, so they got rid of VADA and found someone who would play ball, USADA.

    So are you sure you don't want to reconsider? You're right we don't need to get into a long May-Pac argument, but if you want you could list Pacquiao's red flags besides turning down the testing?

    Or if you just want to skip the chase, you believe Pacquiao was on PEDs, right? So let me just ask straight up, do you believe Floyd was on PEDs too? Because I'm just saying if you do, and I'm guessing you do, then why couldn't they have just fought? How can Floyd probably be on PEDs, but then kill the fight over PED testing? That's what i mean when I say it was clearly all bull****, he just didn't want the fight at that moment because you might not remember, but at that moment in time, Pacquiao looked like a ****ing superhero in a video game, and it's just my opinion, but no one, including Floyd, was beating him short of taking his best and beating the **** out of him back, like Morales did the one night Pacquiao didn't use his punchers gloves, and Marquez almost did in their first two fights, and Floyd was not built for wars like Morales was, so he knew that wasn't his time to have a shot at beating Pacquiao, and he's hinted as much back then and since then from the comments about worrying about his health to after their fight talking about how he wasn't ready back then because the timing wasn't right and so on.
    Last edited by Boxing Logic; 07-12-2016, 07:14 AM.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
      Okay Floyd just had one TUE... And Pacquiao just had one negotiation where he said he was scared of needles? How is that not comparable? Floyd actually got caught doing something illegal. Pacquiao just said he didn't want to do testing which may have, or may have not, caught him doing something illegal. So isn't getting caught doing something illegal more definitive proof than avoiding a situation where you might, or might not, get caught doing what you might, or might not, be doing? One is definitive, the other isn't.

      Or how about Pacquiao had Ariza, and that Aussie dude. Floyd had Ariza, and Memo. The Ariza's cancel each other out, and Memo trumps the Aussie dude because it's Memo. We haven't seen the Aussie dude hulk someone out at 40 years old. We did see Memo hulk out Marquez at 40. So we know where the real red flags are at. And didn't Vanes Martirosan say Memo offered him PEDs without even being secret about it because apparently whenever Memo is hired by a fighter, it's supposed to go without saying that it's to get them PEDs, otherwise why would you hire Memo, since that's what he's known for? If you just wanted a strength coach or a nutritional coach, you could hire any of the other good ones who aren't also PED chemists?

      So again it seems like you're biased as hell to say the red flags don't compare. And remember when Floyd settled the Manny lawsuit with a non-disclosure because, it's rumored, he didn't want his positive A-samples released in disclosure or discovery or whatever they call it? That's just one more red flag with Floyd. Or again how he always insisted on USADA? Remember VADA caught one of GBP's fighters, when Schaeffer was running GBP, and then the head of VADA, who was writing for Golden Boy's Ring Magazine at the time doing like a medical column, got fired, VADA got fired from GBP, and they went to USADA. Basically, VADA wouldn't play ball with them, wouldn't cover up tests, so they got rid of VADA and found someone who would play ball, USADA.

      So are you sure you don't want to reconsider? You're right we don't need to get into a long May-Pac argument, but if you want you could list Pacquiao's red flags besides turning down the testing?

      Or if you just want to skip the chase, you believe Pacquiao was on PEDs, right? So let me just ask straight up, do you believe Floyd was on PEDs too? Because I'm just saying if you do, and I'm guessing you do, then why couldn't they have just fought? How can Floyd probably be on PEDs, but then kill the fight over PED testing? That's what i mean when I say it was clearly all bull****, he just didn't want the fight at that moment because you might not remember, but at that moment in time, Pacquiao looked like a ****ing superhero in a video game, and it's just my opinion, but no one, including Floyd, was beating him short of taking his best and beating the **** out of him back, like Morales did the one night Pacquiao didn't use his punchers gloves, and Marquez almost did in their first two fights, and Floyd was not built for wars like Morales was, so he knew that wasn't his time to have a shot at beating Pacquiao, and he's hinted as much back then and since then from the comments about worrying about his health to after their fight talking about how he wasn't ready back then because the timing wasn't right and so on.

      oh my god, you are yet another dopey pacstain

      son, I will leave it there..... I kinda thought I was dealing with a new or casual fan..... but yea, forget it

      I tell you what, I will give you one opportunity..... just to find out exactly what I am dealing with here......

      When Pacquiao inexplicably killed a super-fight by publicly refusing to undertake random blood tests, he provided 8 ridiculous excuses.

      What we needed, was 1 genuine reason..... but Pacquiao did not have 1 genuine reason, so he palmed off 8 ridiculous excuses.

      Those 8 ridiculous excuses were well-documented at the time.

      Which one did you believe ?

      Serious question, which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses did you accept fanboy? Let's find out what we are dealing with here, before I take this any further.

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