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  • LacedUp
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    #21
    Originally posted by mlac
    Instead of writing an essay that says absolutely nothing, why don't you explain why beating Enzo mac and an ancient mormeck qualifies him as the GOAT ?

    it's simple you can't.

    you made a feeble attempt at trying to big up enzo with the Braithewaite win and that gave that up, and instead blabbered on about his heavyweight dreams, all of which have nothing to do with 2 win's, ( neither of which are particularly great)

    Really we're talking about 1 win. agaisnt mormeck, who in his prime was a fantastic fighter and will definitely be in the top 10/15 GOAT cruiser's.

    Did haye fight a Prime Mormeck?

    no.

    Did haye get dropped by a Mormeck who was coming to the end of his career

    yes.



    'hes got loads of knockouts tho, and he got the titles'

    nevermind who he knocked out ( mostly total bum's) or WHO he fought for the titles

    that's the extent of your argument, Using logic might be some use to you bud.
    Your agenda sucks and it has been shot down.

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      #22
      i'm a david haye guy now. dude gave a hundred grand to nick blackwell, and he's been coaching him on investments and employment after boxing.


      the pound suffered a bit when the brits left the EU, but that's still a f#ckload of money to give away.

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        #23
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Your agenda sucks and it has been shot down.
        Your are a weird deluded fella arnt you? talking about agenda's / insults if you can't refute logic with any kind of argument.

        The only one that has an 'agenda' is you, if david haye never fought wlad you would never be seen in any of these threads

        we get it, Tyson fury is amazing...

        bore off now will ya?

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          #24
          Originally posted by mlac
          Your are a weird deluded fella arnt you? talking about agenda's / insults if you can't refute logic with any kind of argument.

          The only one that has an 'agenda' is you, if david haye never fought wlad you would never be seen in any of these threads

          we get it, Tyson fury is amazing...

          bore off now will ya?
          Your logic is all over the place.

          Ancient Mormeck - Not true.

          Enzo Mac was knocked out every time he stepped up - Not true at the time of the Haye fight.

          The last.. I mean, I don't even know what that means

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            #25
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Your logic is all over the place.

            Ancient Mormeck - Not true.

            Enzo Mac was knocked out every time he stepped up - Not true at the time of the Haye fight.

            The last.. I mean, I don't even know what that means

            Mormeck was in his prime was he?

            he clearly wasnt, again the irony, of 'being all over the place'

            are you actually trying to say that by knocking out enzo mac was a really great win?

            lol?

            talk about clutching at straws

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              #26
              Originally posted by mlac
              Mormeck was in his prime was he?

              he clearly wasnt, again the irony, of 'being all over the place'

              are you actually trying to say that by knocking out enzo mac was a really great win?

              lol?

              talk about clutching at straws
              Being in your prime and being ancient are two things very far apart. Mormeck was the champion and coming off a very good victory. He was undisputed champion when Haye fought him.

              Klitschko fought an ancient Mormeck.

              It tells me everything that you can't discuss without swinging polar opposite black/white arguments this way.

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                #27
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                Being in your prime and being ancient are two things very far apart. Mormeck was the champion and coming off a very good victory. He was undisputed champion when Haye fought him.

                Klitschko fought an ancient Mormeck.

                It tells me everything that you can't discuss without swinging polar opposite black/white arguments this way.
                nit picking on a definition of a word is a really good argument m8.

                ancient? whatever he was old and not in his prime.

                enzo mac is a great win though eh?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by New England
                  i'm a david haye guy now. dude gave a hundred grand to nick blackwell, and he's been coaching him on investments and employment after boxing.


                  the pound suffered a bit when the brits left the EU, but that's still a f#ckload of money to give away.
                  If i was Blackwell, i'd be wary about Haye's "investment" advice. It's common knowledge that Haye's investments in Dubai went **** up, hence him getting arrested over a dodgy cheque & coming back to a sport he despises.

                  Lovely gesture from Haye though, donating the money. I was cynical at first, but yeah, first play to the guy.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mlac
                    nit picking on a definition of a word is a really good argument m8.

                    ancient? whatever he was old and not in his prime.

                    enzo mac is a great win though eh?
                    How is it nitpicking? I said he wasn't ancient which you ridiculously claimed the undisputed champion was, and then you say well then he must be prime - Totally crazy counter.
                    But he was very close to his prime. He looked the same in the Haye fight as he did in his other fights before hand , which I'm sure you haven't seen.

                    I was actually live for this fight.

                    I also never said Enzo was a great win, but it made sense at the time. You make it out as if he was crap because of what turned out. Obviously you can't fault Haye for how Enzo's career turned out after he was demolished.

                    You make absolutely zero points as to why Haye isn't one of the best CWs ever either.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by denium
                      If i was Blackwell, i'd be wary about Haye's "investment" advice. It's common knowledge that Haye's investments in Dubai went **** up, hence him getting arrested over a dodgy cheque & coming back to a sport he despises.

                      Lovely gesture from Haye though, donating the money. I was cynical at first, but yeah, first play to the guy.



                      investing in dubai and investing in local real estate with your modest earnings are different things. he's also been talking about commentary. not sure how well blackwell talks, but he looks good enough that it might be a possibility down the road.


                      consdiering all of the awful and even malicious advice that boxers get concerning how they should spend / "invest" money, i don't think it will harm him all that much to listen to what david haye, a very wealthy guy, has to say about wealth.

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