Margarito defeated PAC, stole his soul!!!

[Lester Tutor]

The fcuk? So you were trying to pass bull**** for evidence, again? After I just showed what youre saying is impossible, in 3 different ways. So you gonna scurry away from that now, but I bet within a week you try serving up that same bull**** again lol

no seriously I'm gonna go ask Arum for the shredded paper work. In the meantime, go rate WWF and grasp how many stadium rural Trump voters ever thought it was fake!

[WesternChamp]

This is where credibility is shot.

Pac half runs from Margarito which he NEVER did before: "I mean come on, did you expect him to stand and trade with Margo?" "Margo was so much bigger" "Pac was never the same" "He fought a smart fight"

Mayweather fights Pacquiao at a distance as he always does: "All Mayweather did was RUN!!!"

That Mayweather was smart enough to do that and avoid punishment and gets blasted for it yet Pacquiao who was always known as a risk-taking fighter switches up gets praised. Hypocrisy.

Bottom line is it took Manny getting bloodied by Morales and essentially beat by Marquez twice before he became an intelligent fighter.



I question your finding. You're judging Floyd based solely on his post-2009 self.

Let's look at his whole career. The only REAL threats he's faced are Marquez, Margarito, Morales and Mayweather. The M's of Doom. Everyone else was easy work and not a threat nor considered to be a threat leading into the fight.

Clottey threw the fight, otherwise he would have been a threat - given he basically got robbed against Cotto. Cotto's performance against Clottey made him not a threat against Manny.


Now, let's look at Floyd's threat list.

Corrales
Juuko
Hernandez
Burton/Augustus
Castillo
Judah (At the time)
Hatton (at the time)
De La Hoya (At the time)
Cotto (first time at LMW, a weight Floyd has never been comfortable at)
Mosley (despite age BS he was fresh off a manhandling of the most dangerous fighter in the division at the time and #1 WW in the world)

Canelo would have been considered a threat except for that gift decision against Trout. Seeing him get outworked told me and many others that he had no chance against TBE.

Marquez would have been a threat except for the weight issue.

Floyd went through a hell of a lot more than Manny did en route to "Money". Once "Money" showed up, and he realized he didn't have to work that hard for big dollar fights, he stopped. Still took big names and big purses, but less risks.

The guys people thought Floyd should have fought all ended up getting manhandled shortly after - except Edwin Valero, the only man to end his career (RIP) with a 100% KO record. That and Hamed are the only fights I wish had happened with Floyd. Especially Hamed.

when floyd can permanently damage a fighter's eye for life from "running" let me know, i wanna see.

[HeroBando]

The video he posted was completely irrelevant. The guy is ******ed. I'm surprised he hasn't been banned for trolling. Him and a few others have made having any sort of legit convo on here impossible.

Yup at least this troll is amusing in a kooky way, and butchers English in hilarious fashion

[jqSide]

The video he posted was completely irrelevant. The guy is ******ed. I'm surprised he hasn't been banned for trolling. Him and a few others have made having any sort of legit convo on here impossible.

He could be Cholo Vista's alt. He uses the same diversionary tactic of making it look like the video is supporting their case. Turns out that it actually contradicts it.

[Zaroku]

I had to block you temporary Zaroku you have been insulting me calling me pink **** or pink butt insulting me for being white, please refrain from the racism.

Yes, Margarito took Pacman to the brink, that fight really was brutal, Pac showed the heart of a warrior as well as Margo as usual, but Pac never laid down from that body attack most men would have crumbled like Cotto. Pac also displayed a good catch and shoot defensive game off the ropes, Pac was never the same his legs were gone.

Ok kid, I made you block me. Ok!

[LoadedWraps]

This is where credibility is shot.

Pac half runs from Margarito which he NEVER did before: "I mean come on, did you expect him to stand and trade with Margo?" "Margo was so much bigger" "Pac was never the same" "He fought a smart fight"

Mayweather fights Pacquiao at a distance as he always does: "All Mayweather did was RUN!!!"

That Mayweather was smart enough to do that and avoid punishment and gets blasted for it yet Pacquiao who was always known as a risk-taking fighter switches up gets praised. Hypocrisy.

Bottom line is it took Manny getting bloodied by Morales and essentially beat by Marquez twice before he became an intelligent fighter.



I question your finding. You're judging Floyd based solely on his post-2009 self.

Let's look at his whole career. The only REAL threats he's faced are Marquez, Margarito, Morales and Mayweather. The M's of Doom. Everyone else was easy work and not a threat nor considered to be a threat leading into the fight.

Clottey threw the fight, otherwise he would have been a threat - given he basically got robbed against Cotto. Cotto's performance against Clottey made him not a threat against Manny.


Now, let's look at Floyd's threat list.

Corrales
Juuko
Hernandez
Burton/Augustus
Castillo
Judah (At the time)
Hatton (at the time)
De La Hoya (At the time)
Cotto (first time at LMW, a weight Floyd has never been comfortable at)
Mosley (despite age BS he was fresh off a manhandling of the most dangerous fighter in the division at the time and #1 WW in the world)

Canelo would have been considered a threat except for that gift decision against Trout. Seeing him get outworked told me and many others that he had no chance against TBE.

Marquez would have been a threat except for the weight issue.

Floyd went through a hell of a lot more than Manny did en route to "Money". Once "Money" showed up, and he realized he didn't have to work that hard for big dollar fights, he stopped. Still took big names and big purses, but less risks.

The guys people thought Floyd should have fought all ended up getting manhandled shortly after - except Edwin Valero, the only man to end his career (RIP) with a 100% KO record. That and Hamed are the only fights I wish had happened with Floyd. Especially Hamed.

[KillaCamNZ]

"Margarito defeated Pac"
"Manny lost that fight"
"He won the fight but was never the same"

Dude, how do you live inside your own head? You're a confused, contradicting mess.

[Zaroku]

"Margarito defeated Pac"
"Manny lost that fight"
"He won the fight but was never the same"

Dude, how do you live inside your own head? You're a confused, contradicting mess.

Pac won, but was never the same. The ref or corner should have stopped that fight.

[BillyBoxing]

Best part is Marquez has more power than Margo since Juan weighed 143 vs a 147 and put MR. Toradol to sleep!

Alvarez flew back in time to whisper in to Pac's ear that a catchweight is better at a higher division. A big ass Margo at 150 and who knows what rehydration clause in place like they did against Oscar enticing it all with proper money... easy breezy!

It's not only about power, but also timing and accuracy.

[revs1227]

this is actually very true , in the pcaquiao movie or documentary its shown after this fight he spent the night in the hospital and pac says that fight took something out of him the weight difference was just too much and he took really hard shots