By a show of hands, who defended Pac refusing random tests/40 mil, but attack Jacobs?

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  • Beercules
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    #11
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
    You guys say, "GGG offered Jacobs = money to that he made against Quillin or maybe a little more"; therefore, Jacobs should be all over GGG's offer.

    Floyd gave Pac the biggest payday offer of his career which was a guaranteed 40 mil. Pac refused. You guys and your friends loved him for it.

    Mayweather refused Arum's offer and bought out of his contract so he could make more money, you guys hated him and called him a duck for it.

    Jacobs believes he's owed more than what you guys think he's owed. Once again, you guys are back at your old tricks and hate him for it.

    Looking back at history, you guys are massively hipocriticol and don't know schit.

    Did Pacquiao make more than 40 million when he finally fought Floyd? Yes or no?

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    • nveleven
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      #12
      Lots of people hold double standards on lots of things (e.g. how many mothers against drunk drivers use their wireless devices every time they get in the car? Lots)

      But in pac's case, from what I recall (and I don't obsess over this stuff like some of you, so could be wrong), the main issue was that Floyd was using USADA, and only USADA.
      In a situation where both athletes are dirty (and let's be real--it's not like it's unlikely), then wouldn't you refuse to use random testing, which was pretty new in boxing back in 2009, from an agency that clearly had a prior relationship with the guy demanding you use *his* agency? It was shady.
      Why didn't Floyd submit to year-round, voluntary VADA testing? A few hardcore fighters certainly have.
      For some reason, if you wanted to fight him, you had to use his preferred testing agents.
      Arum's no fool, so let's not act like pac had zero grounds upon which to refuse floyds USADA demands

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      • Chollo Vista
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        #13
        The tweet Jacobs sent today is his way of promoting Jacobs vs GGG after GGG disciplines Chris Eubank Jr.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Chollo Vista
          You guys say, "GGG offered Jacobs = money to that he made against Quillin or maybe a little more"; therefore, Jacobs should be all over GGG's offer.

          Floyd gave Pac the biggest payday offer of his career which was a guaranteed 40 mil. Pac refused. You guys and your friends loved him for it.

          Mayweather refused Arum's offer and bought out of his contract so he could make more money, you guys hated him and called him a duck for it.

          Jacobs believes he's owed more than what you guys think he's owed. Once again, you guys are back at your old tricks and hate him for it.

          Looking back at history, you guys are massively hipocriticol and arbitrarily/capriciously make your decisions on who's right and wrong based off how lightly complected his skin tone is or the ethnic background of said fighter
          Pacquiao was an effing star and Mayweather would ALSO be getting his career high payday. We all saw it first hand.

          Golovkin can go on and make more money fighting Canelo than a paper belt holder like Jacobs. And no, Jacobs isn't worth anywhere near that much. He's pricing himself out because he's scared.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Azteka
            He's pricing himself out because he's scared.
            Was Floyd Mayweather worth more than 10 mil or whatever he asked Arum for when Arum refused to pay him?

            Therefore you don't know how much money a man should ask for.

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            • Azteka
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              #16
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista
              Was Floyd Mayweather worth more than 10 mil or whatever he asked Arum for when Arum refused to pay him?

              Therefore you don't know how much money a man should ask for.
              Yeah, I do know. When you're doing 368K ratings on Showtime in your biggest fight, I don't think you're a star.

              So you're equating Mayweather telling his promoter how much he should earn to Jacobs telling his opponent? What're you smoking? Maybe Jacobs should talk to PBC, not Golovkin then.

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              • Chollo Vista
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                #17
                Originally posted by Azteka
                Yeah, I do know. When you're doing 368K ratings on Showtime in your biggest fight, I don't think you're a star.
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                Yeah, that's about what FMJ was doing around that time.

                Let me ask you some questions:

                Is GGG a star?

                or

                Is GGG high risk/low reward?

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                • Azteka
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                  Yeah, that's about what FMJ was doing around that time.

                  Let me ask you some questions:

                  Is GGG a star?

                  or

                  Is GGG high risk/low reward?
                  GGG isn't a star, but he is a high risk, high reward fighter. What could be more rewarding than beating the current #1 MW champion who is only 1 belt away from becoming undisputed? Jacobs would be a star overnight himself if he did so, but the dude is scared of fighting Golovkin.

                  Oh, I mean star as in PPV star.

                  Jacobs does 368K viewers on Showtime, he's not on any p4p lists, and he has no fan base. He's not worth anywhere near 5 million. Why doesn't he ask for that fighting Mora, let me ask you?

                  If Jacobs is worth 5 million, then why not ask to get paid that much to fight Mora?

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                    #19
                    You are comparing Pac and Danny Jacobs...


                    Not even factoring in that it was regarding Pac vs Floyd....


                    Just in general: Pac and Jacobs...

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                    • Chollo Vista
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Azteka
                      GGG isn't a star, but he is a high risk, high reward fighter. Why doesn't he ask for that fighting Mora, let me ask you?

                      If Jacobs is worth 5 million, then why not ask to get paid that much to fight Mora?
                      "He's not a star, but he's high risk, high reward"? That's an oxymoron.

                      Jacobs doesn't ask for 5 mil against Mora because he's already beaten Mora and Mora isn't high risk/low reward.

                      For a better definition of high risk/low reward, I'd refer you to ask GGG why he doesn't fight Lara.

                      GGG understands the definition of high risk/low reward and so do his fans, when it's convenient.

                      See GGG vs Ward

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