Comments Thread For: Ward's Coach: Brand Trumps Wade, Golovkin Didn't Want It!

[HeroBando]

He can drop to 154 n clean out, better than waiting

Up to him if he wants to chase greatness, or just be 160 GGG that beat ??????

At 168 theres DeGal, Dirrells, Jack

But thats if he wants to chase greatness

Ward has already cleaned out 168lb, now hes chasing greatness moving up n fighting the most fearful fighter right now

So he's mando for the biggest fight in boxing and he's suppose to move up for those nobodies? Now that Canelo chickened out they say they're moving on. He'll probably stay at Mw to break the defense record and hopefully collect the last belt, but that shouldn't take long at 4 fights a year. If Zurdo is ready next year, I'll bet they'd go up for that. But he's got work to do.

If Ward was chasing anything, it'd have happened 6 months ago. What it was, Hbo told him no money and dates for the no hopers, gotta give them one big fight. And he whined about it, you know, double standards and such

[JUNIABOY]

He can drop to 154 n clean out, better than waiting

Up to him if he wants to chase greatness, or just be 160 GGG that beat ??????

At 168 theres DeGal, Dirrells, Jack

But thats if he wants to chase greatness

Ward has already cleaned out 168lb, now hes chasing greatness moving up n fighting the most fearful fighter right now

Soooo, you want GGG to give up his dream of becoming undisputed at 160 to become undisputed at 154? That doesn't make sense. GGG has put in all this work to acquire 3 titles...just 1 title away from his dream...but you want him to give it all up to pursue the undisputed status at 154? That doesn't make any sense at all. What's the point of GGG campaigning at 154 when some of those guys over time will be forced up to 160?...both Charlos, J-Rock, & Andrade are all guys who could move up easily because of their sheer size...that would make the 154 division very weak if that occurred...no point for GGG to do that. And even if GGG were to move up to 168, he would have to start all over again at chasing belts...it's not a guarantee that he'll get DeGale, Dirrell, or Jack as soon as he moves up...he might be forced to climb up the rankings again. What I think you're critical of is how GGG got to this point. You probably believe he's a hype job. Unfortunately, if he truly was a hype job, no one would duck him. And that's the crux of the problem. Of course GGG critics will never see anything legit about GGG because they will always come back to his resume: "who has he fought? He's fought nothing but bums. GGG can just keep fighting bums." Attacking his resume is a bad argument to make because how is GGG ever going to get a better resume when all the top guys don't want to fight him? Saunders outpriced himself, Canelo vacated, Cotto refused belt fees, Jacobs wants it a year & a half from now, Lara doesn't want to tell his manager he wants the GGG fight, Zurdo said he'd be ready in 2017, etc. Even DeGale would only fight him at 168. Where's the guy who's going to legitimize GGG's resume in a critic's eyes? Is he going to have to move up 2 whole divisions to find someone legit? Again, how is GGG's resume going to get any better in your eyes if everybody ducks him?

[JUNIABOY]

Lol how is beating Nelo defining, Nelo is just a famous cash cow lol, dude hasnt done much in boxing, now if Nelo cleans out 154lb right now n moves up to fight GGG than yea, but Nelo hasnt done nothing great but have a following n be embarrased by MoneyMay

Nelo hasnt done nothing at 160, but get handed out that title by beating Cotto at a CW who also ducked GGG lol, so now GGG is hanging from beating Nelo,

Thats how much of a joke boxing is becoming, we have none but cheerleaders who root for certaing fighters

Canelo would be GGG's best opponent to date if he were to fight him now. Canelo is the biggest ppv draw, & by beating him GGG could very well become the biggest ppv draw himself...it would be a legitimizing fight for either boxer. It is a legit boxing fight. And Canelo is definitely no 154 fighter. I'd like to see him make 154 first before I believe that. Canelo is a 160 fighter so long as he retains the lineal MW belt. And until The Ring strips him, Canelo will be considered a MW. Once again, Canelo would be the best bout for GGG right now.

And boxing has always been about rooting for certain fighters. Why wouldn't a boxing fan root for a specific boxer? You're not going to watch a fight to see the referee, or the promoters. What other way is there to look at boxing?

[JUNIABOY]

noted, thanks june

You got it.

[JUNIABOY]

But let me guess, you just love Laughler and Dirty Sanchez, right ?

yo, hype man...you gotta get your spelling correct if you're going to keep up this level of trolling. Everyone here has higher standards for you. Don't disappoint...

[JUNIABOY]

1) and ALL were better than Wade

2) you did not notice/mention that fact

Hype man, you gotta get these things straight if you're going to continue trolling at your level. None of Ward's last 4 were mando, but he fought them anyway. Let them know that at least. What am I saying?...I shouldn't tell you how to troll. You keep at it, & some day your dreams will come true.

[TX_BOXNG]

So he's mando for the biggest fight in boxing and he's suppose to move up for those nobodies? Now that Canelo chickened out they say they're moving on. He'll probably stay at Mw to break the defense record and hopefully collect the last belt, but that shouldn't take long at 4 fights a year. If Zurdo is ready next year, I'll bet they'd go up for that. But he's got work to do.

If Ward was chasing anything, it'd have happened 6 months ago. What it was, Hbo told him no money and dates for the no hopers, gotta give them one big fight. And he whined about it, you know, double standards and such

Those guys are 168lb champs, not nobodies

Then he should be chasing Jacobs, we can all agree that GGG is the undisputed 160lb champ right now, in a weight that doesnt have much, like i said he wants to chase greatness or money lol

Yall lil fan girls just want your fighter to become more pop n make money lol, yall are cheering for another man to get pay lol

[JUNIABOY]

kid, Barrera/Rodriguez were at least ranked #1 by their respective ABC bodies..... Wade was not, he was a replacement for Johnson.

stop whining b1tch

Yes he was terrible but he was the IBF mandatory and a Haymon guy so you should ask the IBF and Haymon how the **** did he get to mandatory status.

There you go. Filling in the blanks.

[JUNIABOY]

Virgil Hunter has a point. When you look at the pedigree and rankings, Brand had 400 amateur fights and is undefeated. Dominic Wade is a good boxer but that is about it. No comparison, no risk. Ward moved up and fought the number 1 undefeated contender

The fact that Virgil had to legitimize their opponent by bringing up the most-talked-about boxer in the game says more about what Virgil's trying to do--he's hyping the fight by not only comparing, but mentioning GGG. He is trying to make YOU believe that this is a legit boxing match. It's a tune-up. No need to get excited.

[TX_BOXNG]

Soooo, you want GGG to give up his dream of becoming undisputed at 160 to become undisputed at 154? That doesn't make sense. GGG has put in all this work to acquire 3 titles...just 1 title away from his dream...but you want him to give it all up to pursue the undisputed status at 154? That doesn't make any sense at all. What's the point of GGG campaigning at 154 when some of those guys over time will be forced up to 160?...both Charlos, J-Rock, & Andrade are all guys who could move up easily because of their sheer size...that would make the 154 division very weak if that occurred...no point for GGG to do that. And even if GGG were to move up to 168, he would have to start all over again at chasing belts...it's not a guarantee that he'll get DeGale, Dirrell, or Jack as soon as he moves up...he might be forced to climb up the rankings again. What I think you're critical of is how GGG got to this point. You probably believe he's a hype job. Unfortunately, if he truly was a hype job, no one would duck him. And that's the crux of the problem. Of course GGG critics will never see anything legit about GGG because they will always come back to his resume: "who has he fought? He's fought nothing but bums. GGG can just keep fighting bums." Attacking his resume is a bad argument to make because how is GGG ever going to get a better resume when all the top guys don't want to fight him? Saunders outpriced himself, Canelo vacated, Cotto refused belt fees, Jacobs wants it a year & a half from now, Lara doesn't want to tell his manager he wants the GGG fight, Zurdo said he'd be ready in 2017, etc. Even DeGale would only fight him at 168. Where's the guy who's going to legitimize GGG's resume in a critic's eyes? Is he going to have to move up 2 whole divisions to find someone legit? Again, how is GGG's resume going to get any better in your eyes if everybody ducks him?

Hes already undisputed champ at 160lb, hes the best right now, u go head n follow ur titles n crap,

He wants to chase greatness theres nothing for him at 160, hes gona wait for Charlos n Andrade J-rock, lol they waiting on him to retire, move down n kill them all u be greater than what u are, lol chase all those guys, they prolly move to 160lb keep chasing them, but u keep on cheerin for a Nelo bout lol so he can become a star lol, im trying to see greatness, im trying to see him n great matches