How would Mike Tyson have faired against modern day sized heavyweights?

[juggernaut666]

Did you read what I replied to or did you just make a ******ed remark based on what you thought you read?

Rooney was a damn fine trainer, and the turmoil started when Rooney left, not when Cus died.

I at no stage now or ever denied that Cus made Tyson.

That is false the hinges started unscrewing right after Cus passed...Rooney had trouble getting Tyson to train for Tucker and Tyson slowly started doing less by less once Cus died within a few fights. He looked good simply because he was gaining experience but trouble was mounting up prior to the spinks fight and obviously after but Rooney had to really puish Tyson to stay out of trouble and train properly, Cus would have had a different Tyson.

[juggernaut666]

Tyson would still be a top 5 HW in any era. He handled guys like Biggs and Tucker who THEN were solid fighters and Bruno and Ruddock would be able to compete with any HW today. What people have to realize is he is 5'10/5'11 and an overly 6'6/plus guy with skills are going to make him work harder than the average size HW no matter what.

I don't see many guys beating out a 80's or early 90's Tyson....Joshua would be the only guy along with Wlad that I would see giving Tyson the most difficulties in todays line up.


I don't believe Fury would last with him,the two knock down over hand rights he suffered would be exactly what Tyson would hit him with. You have to hurt Tyson to beat Tyson and fury lacks in that department. Wilder would get flattened and anyone else isn't worth mentioning here, other than Ortiz who is a big southpaw who I cant say how good he is based on one Jennings fight.

[low blows]

Tyson struggled with Cowboy Tillis and Boneclutcher went the distance with Tyson. I think he is overrated because the division was the weakest in it's history less the 19th century.

All he beat in his prime years were guys with drug habits and a blown up Michael Spinks.

He also was huge girth wise in that era. Now he would be tiny. That said he was so athletic he would be dangerous against all heavyweights in this era, but I have a feeling he would lose to some of the longer guys with chins like Vitali.

Also if Tyson didn't ko you early he was willing to go the distance because of gas tank issues.

[punchr]

casual fan

Bruno, Ruddock, Berbick, Tony Tucker, Bonecrusher smith, Carl Williams etc...were top ten heavyweights at the time.

you need to watch the fights and fighters instead of regurgitate something you heard someone else say.

Don't be ridiculous.

[LacedUp]

How many times did he go down?

He looked very vulnerable.

Well all of the KDs were pretty flashy. They weren't hard knockdowns. Klitschko pretty much smashed him up the whole fight.

This was also Klitschko's clinching out party.

[elfag]

He would be fine. I think only Lewis and Vitali beat him.

Theres all this talk about how we have all these huge talented heavyweights these days but most of them are just 220lb men trapped in a fat ass body.

We have 3 highly skilled guys over 240 in Lewis, Wlad and vitali.

Tyson would be fine with Fury. Fury was dropped by Cunningham for ****s sake. He leaves himself wide open, tyson can easily get in the inside on him.

The superheavyweight thing is a myth. We got a lot of guys like arreola and company that are really 220lb men like heavyweights always were who are just fatter these days. Theres only a handful that are big, lean and skilled.

[Earl-Hickey]

He would be fine. I think only Lewis and Vitali beat him.

Theres all this talk about how we have all these huge talented heavyweights these days but most of them are just 220lb men trapped in a fat ass body.

We have 3 highly skilled guys over 240 in Lewis, Wlad and vitali.

Tyson would be fine with Fury. Fury was dropped by Cunningham for ****s sake. He leaves himself wide open, tyson can easily get in the inside on him.

The superheavyweight thing is a myth. We got a lot of guys like arreola and company that are really 220lb men like heavyweights always were who are just fatter these days. Theres only a handful that are big, lean and skilled.

Problem is at a certain point size matters.

Even a guy as limited as wach could employ a big man strategy and just lean all over tyson and at some point that near 70lb size difference is going to tell. And wach ate klitschkos shots so tyson isn't getting him out early.

8-9 rounds of wach leaning on tyson and he's going to be exhauseted

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I'd fancy a prime Tyson over all of them tbh.


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[Fury4daWIN]

I'm no Tyson fanboy but I can easily see him destroying guys today.

Prime Tyson made up for his lack of height with tremendous speed and herky jerky head movement that made him a nightmare to control at range. He also possessed the sort of one punch power that would have crumpled many a fighter today. People forget just how easily Tyson could drop guys with glancing blows. Forget Foreman, it was Tyson who routinely knocked guys out without even trying to.

To say that a chump like Wilder would be able to beat Tyson is the grossest insult. First off, Wilder isn't even particularly big, he's just tall. And up until recently he came into fights around the same weight as Tyson on a much more lanky frame. Couple that with his atrocious skills and reckless fighting style (and china chin) and he gets folded up and packed away before the end of the second bell.

Joshua is too untested at this moment to say how well he'd do, though given his similarities to a young Frank Bruno I suspect he'll end up going the same way. I can't see Tyson having any problems getting on the inside of Joshua and once he does I think Joshua gets iced.

Fury, as much as I love him, probably wouldn't last the distance unless he fights the absolute fight of his life. I see him getting badly beaten up and stopped or else dropped by a glancing blow after he gets sloppy and leaves himself open. Tyson would also have no fear coming in on him given Fury's relatively light punching power.

Ortiz might give him a fight, but I think ultimately Tyson's speed, savagery and tenacity would get to the old man.

Wlad is the only fighter I see giving Tyson problems due to his style. The Wlad that fought Haye and Chagaev could very well keep Tyson from coming in on the inside and wind up winning an ugly decision. On the other hand, if Tyson starts to get to Wlad I can see Wlad start to mentally cave in and get stopped down the stretch. It's not a fight I'd like to bet on, either way.

[Fury4daWIN]

He would be fine. I think only Lewis and Vitali beat him.

Theres all this talk about how we have all these huge talented heavyweights these days but most of them are just 220lb men trapped in a fat ass body.

We have 3 highly skilled guys over 240 in Lewis, Wlad and vitali.

Tyson would be fine with Fury. Fury was dropped by Cunningham for ****s sake. He leaves himself wide open, tyson can easily get in the inside on him.

The superheavyweight thing is a myth. We got a lot of guys like arreola and company that are really 220lb men like heavyweights always were who are just fatter these days. Theres only a handful that are big, lean and skilled.

That's a good point. We're used to seeing heavyweights tip the scales at the 240 mark nowadays, and even consider that to be in shape, yet most of these guys are no larger than the heavyweights of the 70s and 80s, frame-wise. Chisora, Arreola, Charr etc should really be no more than 220 if they were in shape, possibly less. Joshua would be in the 230s if he got off the juice. So would Wlad in all probability.

Fury at 245 is about the only legitimate superheavyweight around, barring giants like Wach and Helenius, who are really just big guys. Wilder is a lanky freak who'd lose whatever athleticism he possesses if he bulked up much beyond 230.