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Why can't Team GGG pay Jacobs the 4-5 mil he asks for? Khan made 13 mil vs Canelo
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Originally posted by bug0092 View Post$500K cap? For who? Guys like Wade? What was Wade really worth? What did Lemieux get paid? Golovkin holds 3 farking MW belts and is considered P4P. Any MW who beats him suddenly becomes the man and can start calling the shots. The truth is GGG's not a big enough draw to be able to offer opponents who bring no fan base $2 or $3 million. They all want retirement $$$.
Being handed three belts has nothing to do with it; Alvarez, Cotto, Jacobs, Saunders, Lara, Andy Lee, and Peter Quillin, among others, all have fights in hand that pay better than the nonsense pay that K2 has already been shown willing to pay for Golovkin's opponents (and nice try with that "p4p without fighting anyone else serious" nonsense).
If Golovkin wants to continue on fighting cans, so be it; he's already 34, has maybe 2 more years before the body starts to fall apart (with the extensive amateur career that he's had, on top of what would be 13 years as a pro and doing it all at the same weight, the lack of some breakdown would be suss).
The notion that Golovkin is supposed to continue on making $1.5m/$2m to fight, while quality opponents are shamed into taking steep discounts on their own purses to fight a guy who hasn't fought anyone and is not a star, is laughable.
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Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View PostWho the fuck is Danny Jacobs? Most casuals don't know who he is & most hard cores have hardly seen him fight, because he hardly fights! So he starched Peter Quillen (again, who?) & he's suddenly worth $4-5 million?? Last I heard, Jacobs was saying he's not ready for Golovkin yet. Now he wants a mint to face him? FOH!
5 of Jacobs last 9 fights have been at Barclays Center, Jacobs-Mora II will be held at the Barclays Center, and Barclays Center has been clear in their support for their native son.
K2 being unwilling to put up the money, Lou DiBella calls Frank Warren to see what it'd take to put Saunders-Jacobs together (rather than talk platitudes about possible money, the two gentlemen actually negotiate something) or the WBA pulls Golovkin's card (with Jacobs already mandatory challenger, the low-ball offer from K2 will inherently trigger the purse bid, and DiBella seems more willing to spend the money with him than K2 seems willing to spend their own money; DiBella owing no allegiance to HBO, K2 has a decision to make).
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Originally posted by DJ_Quaaludes View PostExpecting the world to be handed to you is one thing. But what is fair then?
Let's say GGG is the beast people make him out to be (you can disagree, but how can you then say he is super high-risk?). People turn down career-high paydays to fight him. Why do you think that is?
I think fans are frustrated with the current state of boxing, where it seems as if fighters are less content on proving their worth and championship meddle, and more concerned with preserving their '0' and making multi six-figure paydays fighting the Rod Salkas of the world. Hey, I get it, you're getting punched in the face for a living.
But the fact remains that behavior isn't always what the fans would like to see.
Billy Joe Saunders has the Eubank rematch as a possibility; between the live gate and the UK TV money, it's not like Saunders is walking away with pennies on the fight. What did K2 offer to pay Saunders for coming into the UK market ($2.5m was the last number that I've heard, K2 has yet to put out an actual number for what they allegedly offered, and even that doesn't bring into account the amount of extra money that would be due to be made with staging the fight in the UK, compared to anywhere else on the planet Golovkin has already had fights staged).
Friday Night Fights had fallen on tougher times, but I doubt that the $100k purse was life-changing money for Willie Monroe Jr (haven't seen any definitive info, but I doubt Monroe Jr's pay on the 6/11 fight was all that much below the Golovkin pay out.
Golovkin hasn't offered anyone life-changing money, so why push that lie?
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Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View PostJacobs' isn't a draw.
People forget that MGM Resorts paid out a rumored $16m to Cotto-Alvarez at Mandalay Bay Resorts (Roc Nation and Golden Boy got their allotments but, if they wanted to, MGM Resorts didn't have to offer a single ticket to the public because they'd already bought them, in essence).
Whether from the guy off the street walking up or from a sponsor putting up the funds, money is money.
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostJacobs has money backing him, as demonstrated by what Showtime and Barclays Center put behind him for the Peter Quillin fight (and, for the most part, his entire road back from the cancer diagnosis).
People forget that MGM Resorts paid out a rumored $16m to Cotto-Alvarez at Mandalay Bay Resorts (Roc Nation and Golden Boy got their allotments but, if they wanted to, MGM Resorts didn't have to offer a single ticket to the public because they'd already bought them, in essence).
Whether from the guy off the street walking up or from a sponsor putting up the funds, money is money.
A. They dont want the fight
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostGolovkin had to go to PPV to pay David Lemieux to fight; in Golovkin's entire run on HBO, how many times has K2 paid over $500k to bring in an opponent for Golovkin?
Being handed three belts has nothing to do with it; Alvarez, Cotto, Jacobs, Saunders, Lara, Andy Lee, and Peter Quillin, among others, all have fights in hand that pay better than the nonsense pay that K2 has already been shown willing to pay for Golovkin's opponents (and nice try with that "p4p without fighting anyone else serious" nonsense).
If Golovkin wants to continue on fighting cans, so be it; he's already 34, has maybe 2 more years before the body starts to fall apart (with the extensive amateur career that he's had, on top of what would be 13 years as a pro and doing it all at the same weight, the lack of some breakdown would be suss).
The notion that Golovkin is supposed to continue on making $1.5m/$2m to fight, while quality opponents are shamed into taking steep discounts on their own purses to fight a guy who hasn't fought anyone and is not a star, is laughable.
Quillin and Jacobs did horrible with the viewers and neither is a draw. Saunders was the draw so his was team responsible to pay him, but nobody would give Saunders the money he wanted.
You say in other posts that Jacobs has money backing him up. Where is that money? Why can't that money give him the 4-5 million he wants. I bet it's because he isn't worth it.
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Originally posted by icha View Postcorrect me if im wrong, but didnt ggg said he will be fighting on mexican independent weekend?? will he be fighting same date as canelo and hbo allows it?? im not really sure if he said that while canelo was on court, but i think he did...
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