Comments Thread For: Mayweather Backs Golden Boy's Decision on Canelo-Golovkin

[uniquehump]

Although I was a Floyd fan and agree that he is right, I hate that he is right in this case. I wanted the Floyd vs. Pac fight at least 3 years earlier and want Canelo vs. GGG now. I know that fight will be great right now, but GGG is getting older now and it may not be as great in 2017 or 2018, but it will generate more money then. Look at Thurman vs Porter. That fight was free, but if they had waited a few years, possibly a PPV. I wish that there was a salary cap on the purses based on the fighter's rankings and whether or not they hold a title. And you can only make so much money vs. lower ranking fighters. Promoters and Networks will make all the money, but fighters will fight more meaningful fights and they will fight maybe 4 times per year, instead of once and twice a year. You may even get more stacked cards instead of a very good main event with a bunch of bull crap fighters that shouldn't be on tv.

[HeroBando]

Truth one hunnid

Various boxers have done this as a business move and when they know they are the bigger draw, they will exercise that in negotiations.

There was no way that Canelo/Golden Boy would allow a 55-45 split in this fight if it went to purse bid. That's crazy for a person in Canelo who has brought in numbers in PPV and especially at the gate compared to Golovkin who could only pull in 2 million dollars at the gate against David Lemieux.

Folks will pay a higher price to see Canelo than they will for Golovkin and Oscar knows this.

Chess not checkers folks

Team Ggg knew the fight was off if it went to purse bid, that's a weak excuse. It wasn't about money, the purse split only gets worse for Canelo now that he handed Ggg his belt and balls.

[JRB123]

Team Ggg knew the fight was off if it went to purse bid, that's a weak excuse. It wasn't about money, the purse split only gets worse for Canelo now that he handed Ggg his belt and balls.

The purse split won't get much worse if Canelo is the bigger draw. The belts are irrelevant in this case.

[HeroBando]

The purse split won't get much worse if Canelo is the bigger draw. The belts are irrelevant in this case.

I disagree. Canelo took a lopsided B side split vs Cotto, which should have been 50/50, cause he was the challenger. Not only is Ggg bringing 3 -4 belts, but it's Canelos only way of regaining some of the respect he's lost

I'm not saying Ggg would get 50/50 or better, but they might have taken 30-35% now, 40-45 by the time it gets made, maybe better.

[Rock&Roll]

You're right about everything except 1 thing. It doesn't even necessarily make promoters more money in the short-term. May v. Pac was a dud, yes, but a big part of that reason was that both fighters were clearly past their prime. If they 1st fought in '09 or '10 who's to say the fight wouldn't have generated a rematch or even a trilogy in which, ultimately the fighters made even more money then they did bc they fought each other a number of times instead of poor ppv performances such as Mayweather v Guererro, Pacquiao v. Rios, etc.

Also, I am always in favor of people making as much money as possible; and I would never criticize someone for getting every last cent. That said, once you have hundreds of millions of $$$, you've already set up yourself and the next3-4 generations. Wouldn't your legacy, at some point, be more important than that extra dollar that won't have any impact on your life or your kids or grandkids' lives?

True, I wouldn't even watch a rematch if it happened now. You sound too logical and rationally minded to be a boxing fan ha!

[JRB123]

I disagree. Canelo took a lopsided B side split vs Cotto, which should have been 50/50, cause he was the challenger. Not only is Ggg bringing 3 -4 belts, but it's Canelos only way of regaining some of the respect he's lost

I'm not saying Ggg would get 50/50 or better, but they might have taken 30-35% now, 40-45 by the time it gets made, maybe better.

I'm not certain that they would agree to 30-35% right now...why do that when if they hold out for a purse, they get 45%? It's would be close to the same situation as the talks for Povetkin-Wilder, where Ryabinsky knew that if they held out for a purse, Povetkin would get more money. Yes, Wilder would have ended up with a higher percentage, but at the time the bid was won Povetkin had a lot of the advantages to his side.

Here, I would not be too sure that Golden Boy would win the bid...K2 got money also that they could spend to get to promote fights.

The thing here is that Canelo is the more lucrative/popular fighter and it wouldn't make sense for him to allow Golovkin to get 40-45%...Hopefully I can break this down a little more later

[Rock&Roll]

Bull****.... The only thing that you can "guarantee" is that Lil G will be fighting his 3rd prospect in 4 fights. You talk about legacy? How come you don't mention how Lil G choose to fight another prospect instead of fighting another champ in Lara... Which one do you think would be bigger for his legacy? C'mon, man all this BS your spewing about Canelo losing "a lot" of fans is here say... Everyone that is hating on Canelo now where the same ones hating on him before. I will promise this Canelo will still be headlining PPV'S while Lil G will still be fighting prospects on regular HBO...

Naaaaa its u talking te shi1t bruh. Lara isn't going to create a legacy, but if he was in middleweight he'd be in GG's sights. GG won't be vacating any mw belts unless he moves up, unlike some. If you want a crack, get in line and become mandatory - you've got 3 bellts/org's/rankings to choose from. Not the best idea to unify a division if you want to duck people.
Also there is a newfound hate of Canelo, not same old people. If u can't see that you're blind and i'm wasting my time debating with a fool.

[KLockard23]

I'm not talking PPV, I'm talking period.

Broner was positioned as the face of PBC until he got manhandled. Then he got one more chance against Porter - and blew it.

You can argue PBC may put too much emphasis on a fighter being undefeated themselves than they should. The larger point though, is that if Broner keeps winning and rebuilds himself proper, then the two previous losses won't really mean much (or anything.)

Like I said, Tyson stayed up there because people knew his losses were all about Robin Givens messing him up in the head. Not a lack of skill.

They blamed her for losing to Holyfield twice as well? And Lennox Lewis so many years later? Come on... I think it's more the fact that despite his losses, people had already invested so much in Tyson and he had already built up such a reputation as a bad-ass (his incredible KO record) that people weren't just gonna stop caring simply because he lost a few. It don't work like that.

Roberto Durán Speaks: The Untold Story Is Finally Revealed!, Bill Brubaker, New York Daily News 1981

It took YEARS before people gave Duran another shot. He never did get back to the draw he was.

Even that might have had to do with him flat out quitting rather than fighting to the end.

Uh, Larry Holmes?

lol That was the penultimate fight of his career. The Frazier and Norton losses meant practically nothing, neither did the Spinks loss come to think of it.

Doesn't negate the fact that his stock dropped.

For arguably other reasons. Floyd's PPV numbers slowly started slipping as well around 2014 as well (the two Maidana fights drew less than one million, and the Berto fight drew only like 500,000), even though he was still undefeated. Despite this, he and Manny still did 4.6 million buys together.

[HeroBando]

I'm not certain that they would agree to 30-35% right now...why do that when if they hold out for a purse, they get 45%? It's would be close to the same situation as the talks for Povetkin-Wilder, where Ryabinsky knew that if they held out for a purse, Povetkin would get more money. Yes, Wilder would have ended up with a higher percentage, but at the time the bid was won Povetkin had a lot of the advantages to his side.

Here, I would not be too sure that Golden Boy would win the bid...K2 got money also that they could spend to get to promote fights.

The thing here is that Canelo is the more lucrative/popular fighter and it wouldn't make sense for him to allow Golovkin to get 40-45%...Hopefully I can break this down a little more later

They'd take 30-35% cause they know it's off if it went to purse bid, and their priority was to make the fight happen.

[casheddie]

Mayweather is a great business mind with no prospects...
His guys are not at the top or even known.

GGG's name grows no matter what, He's gonna continue to KO guys and win. Canelo has more pressure now because if he performs any less than perfect it's gonna tarnish the payday.

Big mistake for GGG to not get a fight in before this Eubank bout. He needs fights 3/4 times a year.