Comments Thread For: Mayweather Backs Golden Boy's Decision on Canelo-Golovkin

[elgu]

Doesn't say much for GGG then. Put Floyd's first 35 fight resume next to GGG's. Or put his resume at 34yrs old next to GGG's. If Floyd didn't fight real comp, that makes GGG an absolute f.uck'n joke.

Floyd was handed every opportunity and he knows it. The shot against Genaro...given. Corrales also accepted to fight him. De la hoya also fought him and made him boxings biggest star.

When has GGG been given an opportunity? Martinez, Ward, Froch, Cotto, Canelo, Jacob... all ducked. If GGG had Floyds opportunities and had fought the guys mentioned above his resume would be stellar.

[hitking]

Floyd was handed every opportunity and he knows it. The shot against Genaro...given. Corrales also accepted to fight him. De la hoya also fought him and made him boxings biggest star.

When has GGG been given an opportunity? Martinez, Ward, Froch, Cotto, Canelo, Jacob... all ducked. If GGG had Floyds opportunities and had fought the guys mentioned above his resume would be stellar.

Floyd made his own opportunities. By 34, he had fought in and won titles in five divisions. GGG is still running around talking about unifying belts with the likes of Billy Joe Saunders.

BTW, if you genuinely believe Ward ducked GGG, you need your head examined.

[elgu]

Floyd made his own opportunities. By 34, he had fought in and won titles in five divisions. GGG is still running around talking about unifying belts with the likes of Billy Joe Saunders.

BTW, if you genuinely believe Ward ducked GGG, you need your head examined.

Even Floyd has said he was handed the opportunity to fight Genaro. Know your history. Ward ducked GGG back in 2013, its funny Ward fans never like to talk about that. Ward claimed to be injured in that time but he didn't even show evidence to the organization for which he held a title. Thats why they stripped him. Know your history!

[Combat Talk Radio]

I disagree about Broner. He was never a PPV fighter to begin with and it's hard to measure his worth now compared to then.

I'm not talking PPV, I'm talking period.

Broner was positioned as the face of PBC until he got manhandled. Then he got one more chance against Porter - and blew it.

Tyson was a huge draw even after losing to Holyfield twice as well. The Lennox Lewis fight was the biggest of his career.

Like I said, Tyson stayed up there because people knew his losses were all about Robin Givens messing him up in the head. Not a lack of skill.

Pacquiao's choice of guys after Marquez were limited, as already noted. It's a big reason why people were growing more and more frustrated with he and Mayweather not squaring off and you saw what kind of buyrate that did when it finally happened.

Pacquiao had plenty of choices. He just chose the easy routes thanks to Bob Arum. Doesn't negate the fact that his stock tanked - and he wasn't able to pull solid numbers on his own even in the fourth Marquez fight.

No comment on the first two examples, but in what way did Duran's stock drop after the loss to SRL?

Roberto Durán Speaks: The Untold Story Is Finally Revealed!, Bill Brubaker, New York Daily News 1981

It took YEARS before people gave Duran another shot. He never did get back to the draw he was.

Let's not leave Muhammad Ali out either. His losses didn't affect his career at all.

Uh, Larry Holmes?

not really true.. after the ko, pac fought guys that people were NOT interested in (rios, algieri, etc.) and guys he fought already (bradley).

Doesn't negate the fact that his stock dropped.

Don't forget to add Wladimir Klitschko to the list! He went from being ranked P4P top #5 to being dropped out entirely! He's not considered irrelevant and old...

Good catch. Grabomir Clinchko certainly did drop stock after getting schooled.

[hitking]

Even Floyd has said he was handed the opportunity to fight Genaro. Know your history. Ward ducked GGG back in 2013, its funny Ward fans never like to talk about that. Ward claimed to be injured in that time but he didn't even show evidence to the organization for which he held a title. Thats why they stripped him. Know your history!

OK, Floyd was handed the Genaro Hernandez shot. What about his willingness to move up in weight? Something GGG hasn't shown a willingness to do. Floyd had moved up 24lbs by the time he was GGG's age. Yet the mention of GGG going up to light heavy sends GGG fans into straight panic mode.

As for Ward ducking GGG, OK. If that helps you sleep better at night. Pretty much the entire industry disagrees with you. But OK.

[elgu]

OK, Floyd was handed the Genaro Hernandez shot. What about his willingness to move up in weight? Something GGG hasn't shown a willingness to do. Floyd had moved up 24lbs by the time he was GGG's age. Yet the mention of GGG going up to light heavy sends GGG fans into straight panic mode.

As for Ward ducking GGG, OK. If that helps you sleep better at night. Pretty much the entire industry disagrees with you. But OK.

I'm awaiting evidence that Ward didn't duck GGG in 2013. I want to see that entire industry.

[QballLobo]

Floyd would have done the same thing. Remember when the WBC threatened to make Pac his mando, Floyd said if that happens he would drop the belt the next day.
Floyd and Canelo know their worth. GGG hasn't earned the right to dictate terms to anyone that has options. He needs to understand his position in the game and what he does and does not bring to the table.

[HeroBando]

Floyd would have done the same thing. Remember when the WBC threatened to make Pac his mando, Floyd said if that happens he would drop the belt the next day.
Floyd and Canelo know their worth. GGG hasn't earned the right to dictate terms to anyone that has options. He needs to understand his position in the game and what he does and does not bring to the table.

He wasn't trying to dictate anything, just fulfil his mando like 1000s of boxers prior. Cut the excuses, Canelo ducked him cause he doesn't wanna get destroyed

[JRB123]

Floyd would have done the same thing. Remember when the WBC threatened to make Pac his mando, Floyd said if that happens he would drop the belt the next day.

Floyd and Canelo know their worth. GGG hasn't earned the right to dictate terms to anyone that has options. He needs to understand his position in the game and what he does and does not bring to the table.

Truth one hunnid

Various boxers have done this as a business move and when they know they are the bigger draw, they will exercise that in negotiations.

There was no way that Canelo/Golden Boy would allow a 55-45 split in this fight if it went to purse bid. That's crazy for a person in Canelo who has brought in numbers in PPV and especially at the gate compared to Golovkin who could only pull in 2 million dollars at the gate against David Lemieux.

Folks will pay a higher price to see Canelo than they will for Golovkin and Oscar knows this.

Chess not checkers folks

[DominiBox]

Glad to see a little bit of honesty. The father of advantages and master of the noble art of pushing fights as much as necessary, and in the process, convincing his groupies he wants a "clean, fair, even" sport.

What GBP did was a flashback of Mayweather's legacy in the sport of boxing.