Overmatched Filipinos Get Mauled in Thailand.

[Manny_P]

I read an article or maybe saw it on TFC, that some Filipinos that fight in Thailand use other fighters names and the true owners of the names are just like WTF when they see a loss from a fighter they never fought. Also some have hepatitis or some **** fightin in Thailand just to eat and feed their families.

exactly and that's why Im angered when I see a thread like this and feel like kickin some ass myself. I feel fo the Filipino boxers. They deserve betta fo sure.

[moy22487]

see people like this geniuse is why theres a war in every thread that involves pinoys or mexicans under 135

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see people like this geniuse is why theres a war in every thread that involves pinoys or mexicans under 135

Hey moy, read the whole thread. We didn't start this ****.
We're just biting back.

[moy22487]

Hey moy, read the whole thread. We didn't start this ****.
We're just biting back.

read what i wrote to manny_p. you are just adding to it. your making things worse. you lowering yourself to doing the same gives you no right to ***** later on when they come back at you. is last laught really necessary. just talk sports and give every fighter the respect he deserves.

[grayfist]

In the past 25 years, I have been a frequent visitor of the Philippines (the fact is, I am in the Philippines right now: leaving on the 4th), and as far as I can tell, the traffic of cannon fodder goes both ways. I have watched so many Thai fighters not lasting more than 2 or 3 rounds in the hands of Filipino fighters, especially, in Paranaque (where the asian-boxing-influential Elorde family is based), in the islands of Cebu and Negros as well as a city in Metropolitan Manila called Mandaluyong.

Thais are not the only favorite fare of promising Filipino fighters: recently there are the Indonesians, and in years past there were Koreans and Japanese.

Last year, two Africans--Vuyisle Bebe and Obote Ameme-- came over to be stopped by Rey Bautista. Ameme had been stopped twice in his last four fights prior to meeting Bautista (he won the other two on points) and Bebe had lost three of his four previous fights, with one No Contest.

It was not only Filipinos who fed their prospect Bautista his diet of warm bodies: in 2002, Boom Boom went all the way to Japan where Hirokatsu Yamazaki was fed by his own compatriots to Bautista in Tokyo. The foregone conclusion came in the third round, and Yamazaki raised his loss record to 11-- one more than his total wins of 10.

In June last year, a Mexican from Ciudad Obregon, named Gilberto Bolanos, went to Cebu (an island province in the middle of the Philippine archipelago) with a record of only 4 wins and 7 losses to face Bautista. He refused to come out for the 7th (or, was it 6th?) round.

The Elorde ward, Juanito Rubillar, who is reportedly all but dying to face Viloria, has had his own diet of Thai, Korean and Japanese meat: Yuki Hashiguchi (Japanese), Jim Ho Kim (Korean), Fahsang Pongsawang (Thai), Takahiko Mizuno (Japanese), Takayoki Korogi (Japanese), Namchai Taksinisan (Thai), Katsumi Makiyama (Japanese), Samransak Singmanasak (Thai), among others. Only the Hashiguchi and Korogi fights were outside the Philippines (both were in Honolulu).

Joma Gamboa, also faced a number of Korean, Japanese and Thai fighters before facing Noel Arambulet twice (lost 1, won 1): Aswin Sithlakmuang, Chul Woo Lee, Toru Shimabukuro, Chaweng Sangklam, Woo-Hee Chang, Ryu Koroshima, etc.

I think part of what caused some of the arguments on this thread is in the title of the piece of Mr. Nathanielz. It gives the impression as all his previous similar pieces that Filipinos are sent out to slaughter (which is partly true), and omits the opposing lanes of the multi-directional freeway.

The arrangements are clearly quid pro quo, and such deals are not really a scarcity anywhere in boxing.

[kadyo's]

They were def sent out to pad the Thais records, which is the point of many of Ronnie's articles time and time again. He made a point to say that people who are higher up are turning a blind eye and celebrating, while inexperienced filipino fighters are being sent to the wolves against much better fighters because their promoters make deals that benefit them and not the fighters.

Yeah, GAB has to do something immediately. This has been happening since time immemorial. Sometimes, cooks or tricycle drivers pretending to be boxers goes to thailand to pad a boxer's record. Many filipino boxing promoters are guilty of the same dirty works too. Just recently, gerry penalosa fought a cook in his comeback fight. The por man took the dive even before gerry can land the punch that caused th " knock out ". Hope that promoters like these be banned from promoting immediately. Corruption in our government sometimes is the cause of these shady deals that happens right below a official's nose. Hope that ronnie is not of these kind of works or is associated with peeps who are doing these. He has been involved with boxing for too long not to be robbed by these unscrupulous characters.

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read what i wrote to manny_p. you are just adding to it. your making things worse. you lowering yourself to doing the same gives you no right to ***** later on when they come back at you. is last laught really necessary. just talk sports and give every fighter the respect he deserves.

ooh, a man of wisdom.
I respect that brotha.
Your cool with me.

[kadyo's]

In the past 25 years, I have been a frequent visitor of the Philippines (the fact is, I am in the Philippines right now: leaving on the 4th), and as far as I can tell, the traffic of cannon fodder goes both ways. I have watched so many Thai fighters not lasting more than 2 or 3 rounds in the hands of Filipino fighters, especially, in Paranaque (where the asian-boxing-influential Elorde family is based), in the islands of Cebu and Negros as well as a city in Metropolitan Manila called Mandaluyong.

Thais are not the only favorite fare of promising Filipino fighters: recently there are the Indonesians, and in years past there were Koreans and Japanese.

Last year, two Africans--Vuyisle Bebe and Obote Ameme-- came over to be stopped by Rey Bautista. Ameme had been stopped twice in his last four fights prior to meeting Bautista (he won the other two on points) and Bebe had lost three of his four previous fights, with one No Contest.

It was not only Filipinos who fed their prospect Bautista his diet of warm bodies: in 2002, Boom Boom went all the way to Japan where Hirokatsu Yamazaki was fed by his own compatriots to Bautista in Tokyo. The foregone conclusion came in the third round, and Yamazaki raised his loss record to 11-- one more than his total wins of 10.

In June last year, a Mexican from Ciudad Obregon, named Gilberto Bolanos, went to Cebu (an island province in the middle of the Philippine archipelago) with a record of only 4 wins and 7 losses to face Bautista. He refused to come out for the 7th (or, was it 6th?) round.

The Elorde ward, Juanito Rubillar, who is reportedly all but dying to face Viloria, has had his own diet of Thai, Korean and Japanese meat: Yuki Hashiguchi (Japanese), Jim Ho Kim (Korean), Fahsang Pongsawang (Thai), Takahiko Mizuno (Japanese), Takayoki Korogi (Japanese), Namchai Taksinisan (Thai), Katsumi Makiyama (Japanese), Samransak Singmanasak (Thai), among others. Only the Hashiguchi and Korogi fights were outside the Philippines (both were in Honolulu).

Joma Gamboa, also faced a number of Korean, Japanese and Thai fighters before facing Noel Arambulet twice (lost 1, won 1): Aswin Sithlakmuang, Chul Woo Lee, Toru Shimabukuro, Chaweng Sangklam, Woo-Hee Chang, Ryu Koroshima, etc.

I think part of what caused some of the arguments on this thread is in the title of the piece of Mr. Nathanielz. It gives the impression as all his previous similar pieces that Filipinos are sent out to slaughter (which is partly true), and omits the opposing lanes of the multi-directional freeway.

Damn! taht's an awesome post. You emorize all of them buddy? You think ronnie is bias or he ois doing this intentionally to get the attention of GAB or to get back at GAB.