Danny Jacobs: GGG is the best of my generation - Will fight him when money is right

[New England]

....so what makes your opinion more valid than mine? because you typed it? bwahahahahahaaaa.....I enjoy scjooling you daily


Your boy has a lacking resume, he isnt p4p, he didnt earn all his belts in the ring, and he will be fighting another can next, you'll defend it with the usual "they duckking doe" crap....rinse wash repeat

an objective criteria would be comparing it to lists from experts, or collections of experts. espn, ring mag, and TBRB are just that. compare your list to those lists.



so post your list and we'll see how little you know about boxing.
rank the middleweights, too, while you're at it.

[New England]

So cuz boxing is more dangerous than most other sports you're okay with the money over the sport angle to boxing?

Eh, but yea fair enough argument I'll admit. I wouldn't argue for it cuz as a bigger fan of more competition in boxing it's counterproductive to making the sport appealing to the masses (or bigger masses than its getting anyway) and my overall enjoyment.

And I personally believe one of the reasons MMA keeps becoming more mainstream is cuz they do exactly what I'm suggesting for boxing via the UFC. Although as you bring up boxing is dangerous, even more than MMA, so maybe that isn't even as relevant a comparison as most would think.

i'm ok with fighters being managed in a manner that considers their health above all else. that goes above sport. it's not just about money in that sense, or at least it shouldn't be even if it really is.

this obviously isn't what happens in every situation, but at least it safeguards guys from being mandated to take tough fights when they're not ready for them, and getting badly hurt or killed.

[bug0092]

If GGG were in Jacobs' or Saunders' position and had the opportunity to acquire 3 world MW belts with a shot at the consensus top MW on the planet and a P4P guy, what kind of $ do you think GGG would be asking for?

[Vasyl’s dad]

And this is another example of why boxing needs some sort of elite boxers central power structure type entity. Too much is about the business of boxing vs the sport of boxing. If basketball was ran like boxing teams wouldn't wanna play Golden State or Cleveland unless they made double what they usually make.

For some reason sports fans love the capitalistic nature of boxing that hurts the sport of boxing and that they wouldn't want anything to do with in other sports.

Nobody in real life even talks about money in boxing.

[cork]

basketball teams can't die in the ring. you can die in boxing. kovalev killed a guy. eubanks damn near killed nick blackwell a few months ago.

just look at what happened to jermain taylor. knocked out by froch, signs up for a tournament and ends up getting matched with the best puncher in the tournament. gets knocked out and his life is literally never the same. JT is insane now. that's from head trauma. i get that people don't understand that, but that's why you can't compare team sports in a tournament format to pro boxing. guys need easy fights, tune ups, favorable matching when they are coming up, to develop and lengthen their careers.


you can't just mandate fighters to fight, one after the other, their top contenders. they'll burn out and nobody will make money. promotors won't invest in building fighters just to lose control and not be able to match them.



now, if you want to draft up some kind of system to make championship fighters fight, i'm open to the idea and seeing what the mechanisms look like. just know that promotors won't promote, and fighters won't fight, if they're not allowed to try and maximise the value of their assets [ or from the perpsective of a fighter, their lives.]

I know what you mean by risking their lives but he is right, it is what's killing boxing. Nobody would watch the nba if half the season the pro teams play against high school teams and that's what it feels like with 90% of these fights. i think football players have a higher risk for long term brain injury, it's pretty well documented, and they still play because they know the pay is better than anything else they can do. Same for boxing if these guys aren't boxing most of them won't even sniff that amount of money working at a regular job.

It would be cool to see haymons plan work and these major networks buy the rights to boxing but they need to have a ufc format where they get rid of all these promoters and sanctioning bodies and all the boxes sign under one company. I mean if baseball which gets like 2 million viewers on fox, I can't see why boxing can't get a tv deal.

[therealpugilist]

an objective criteria would be comparing it to lists from experts, or collections of experts. espn, ring mag, and TBRB are just that. compare your list to those lists.



so post your list and we'll see how little you know about boxing.
rank the middleweights, too, while you're at it.

Im not posting ***** because you never honored my request like I did yours last week.

you are a troll and a fan boy and you dont know much about boxing unless its one of the 2-3 fighters you know...its ok....you're a casual fan.


most of the so called " experts", "analysts", and " Commentary" get corrected and sonned by boxers, trainers, fans, and novice boxers daily

most of them never put on a glove a day in their live and don't understand what it takes to be a fighter, train or even spar.

Ring Magazine has been crap since Collins left, Doug Fischer has fell off mightily since he left Maxboxing and his integrity has fell through the floor. He is all about style preference.


BWAA voted freddie roach trainer of the year 7 times...they are experts right? the man won the award certain years when he lost most his big fights and other trainers had better years,


If you weren't a lazy fan, you'd form your own opinion by delving into the sports history, techniques, watching the fighters, etc....


How about this....be your own man, do your own research and stop depending on others to base your opinion on.

[therealpugilist]

an objective criteria would be comparing it to lists from experts, or collections of experts. espn, ring mag, and TBRB are just that. compare your list to those lists.



so post your list and we'll see how little you know about boxing.
rank the middleweights, too, while you're at it.

how about you post your crap...p4p list...im anxious to see it...you can find mine anytime. you already read it, tried to dissect it, but don't have the boxing knowledge to even name 10 pro fighters, let alone put together a list with credibilty.

face it, you are a fan boy,...you dont know ***** about boxing

[New England]

Im not posting ***** because you never honored my request like I did yours last week.

you are a troll and a fan boy and you dont know much about boxing unless its one of the 2-3 fighters you know...its ok....you're a casual fan.


most of the so called " experts", "analysts", and " Commentary" get corrected and sonned by boxers, trainers, fans, and novice boxers daily

most of them never put on a glove a day in their live and don't understand what it takes to be a fighter, train or even spar.

Ring Magazine has been crap since Collins left, Doug Fischer has fell off mightily since he left Maxboxing and his integrity has fell through the floor. He is all about style preference.


BWAA voted freddie roach trainer of the year 7 times...they are experts right? the man won the award certain years when he lost most his big fights and other trainers had better years,


If you weren't a lazy fan, you'd form your own opinion by delving into the sports history, techniques, watching the fighters, etc....


How about this....be your own man, do your own research and stop depending on others to base your opinion on.

i never saw your lists

post them.


and for your edification, i had media credentials for several years to cover boxing. covered big fights on hbo and showtime, and smaller fights on local TV and off of TV entirely. did this in MA and CT. golovkin wasn't even fighting in america yet. id' be in the BWAA by now if i had stuck with it.


so yeah. i forgot more about boxing in the last year than you'll ever know. go try and get media credentials and sit on press row. it's not as easy as you might think. you don't have the chops, the connections, or the knowledge. fanboy doe.


now post that pathetic list of yours.

[New England]

I know what you mean by risking their lives but he is right, it is what's killing boxing. Nobody would watch the nba if half the season the pro teams play against high school teams and that's what it feels like with 90% of these fights. i think football players have a higher risk for long term brain injury, it's pretty well documented, and they still play because they know the pay is better than anything else they can do. Same for boxing if these guys aren't boxing most of them won't even sniff that amount of money working at a regular job.

It would be cool to see haymons plan work and these major networks buy the rights to boxing but they need to have a ufc format where they get rid of all these promoters and sanctioning bodies and all the boxes sign under one company. I mean if baseball which gets like 2 million viewers on fox, I can't see why boxing can't get a tv deal.

it's not good for the fans, but is it really killing boxing?

unless you're muhammad ali your career isn't goign to last long if you're matched like he was. and even with all of ali's talents he ended his life badly damaged. you can't expect everybody to be matched like that. the best can't always fight the best in boxing. it juyst doesn't work like that. and it never has. in the few situations wher eit has, like ali in the 70's, guys get hurt or killed.

[therealpugilist]

i never saw your lists

post them.


and for your edification, i had media credentials for several years to cover boxing. covered big fights on hbo and showtime, and smaller fights on local TV and off of TV entirely. did this in MA and CT. golovkin wasn't even fighting in america yet. id' be in the BWAA by now if i had stuck with it.


so yeah. i forgot more about boxing in the last year than you'll ever know. go try and get media credentials and sit on press row. it's not as easy as you might think. you don't have the chops, the connections, or the knowledge. fanboy doe.


now post that pathetic list of yours.

"media credentials" mean about as much as indicating knowledge of the sport as freddie roaches trainer of the year awards.....they mean little to nothing

knowledge is illustrated by the quality of your posts....and yours sir are utter horse crud