Why are American heavyweights so bad?

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  • Cutthroat
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    #61
    Originally posted by Monaco Slim
    Did the NBA and NFL just become popular in the year 2000 or something? Around the time we started kicking your arse at every single sport?
    No, they became popular in the 1970's when they transitioned to Cable TV and Boxing was shifting to PPV, the decline started way back.

    The average salary for the NBA/NFL players in 1970 was around $30k per year, today that figure is in the multi million range, NBA players are getting an average of 5 million per year.




    That then had an effect nationwide on collegiate sports, high school sports, middle school, youth sports. These sports are also easy to market to kids, shoes, socks, backpacks, shirts, shorts, jerseys, etc.

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      #62
      Originally posted by buge
      this is like Michael Jordan with baseball

      just because someone is great at one sport doesn't mean he could've been great at another - who knows if they would've had any power or a chin, could take getting punched in the face at all for that matter, etc.
      America currently has around 21 million kids from ages 6-17 playing youth sports, that figure is most likely much higher as well. That's around half of the UK's total population.

      That 21 million keeps growing throughout each generation, kids graduate, new kids start playing, we're talking about HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of people that are being taken away from boxing due to these sports.

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        #63
        Originally posted by stellen
        This is how you win an argument. Post a picture of a big black basketball player? Its like if britain was ***** at hw boxing someone posting pictures of massive rugby union and league players. Bleating this is where all our boxers have gone. LOL pathetic.
        Your youth sports system isn't built like ours, stop thinking it is lmao. We build multi million dollar stadiums just to high school football games, sports are god in America. I could post all sorts of guys, America is one of the most diverse places on earth, our hispanic population is 50 million, 35 of that being Mexican.

        50 million hispanics that's around the UK's total population, yet you think the best we have to offer is Danny Garcia? lol
        It's not like we're small either, the average American is 5'9 180lbs, we produce huge hispanics, 6'2 guys like Zurdo Ramirez are pretty damn common here
        Last edited by Cutthroat; 06-26-2016, 10:15 PM.

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        • kilojay505
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          #64
          So glad boxingscene has went from ignorant racist to ignorant nationalist

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          • MrRolltide91
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            #65
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            The point is not if these single basketball players were boxers, it's if more of the hundreds of thousands of kids who grow up playing basketball and football went to a boxing gym, like they used to, then American heavyweights would be much better. That much is obvious simply by looking at who our best heavyweights are right now. They are high school football or basketball players that couldn't make it in college.

            Used to be those kids weren't going for those sports like they do now. People don't understand just how ingrained football and basketball are into American culture. If you have any real talent, you get pushed towards those sports. That has only happened in the past 30 years or so. And what has happened to the American heavyweight scene in that time? It's gone to ****. That's not a coincidence no matter how much people outside America want to believe it is.

            Plus you become famous and a millionaire at an earlier age.


            You can be a 19 year old NBA rookie and be making millions.


            That's not happening in boxing.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Monaco Slim
              Why can't a country of 330 million, a country that eats more food than anyone else, produce more talented heavyweight boxers?

              The UK is a dot on the map, yet we're producing the toughest men in the world. There's not an American born from their mothers c*nt that can defeat 'big sexy' Tyson Fury or 'sexual chocolate' Anthony Joshua
              Boxing isn't big here in the states. Top athletic talent is all going to football and basketball. Universities don't support boxing much either, you don't really get too many scholarships for boxing, but football...lol, yeah....that's BIG MONEY over here.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Cutthroat
                No, they became popular in the 1970's when they transitioned to Cable TV and Boxing was shifting to PPV, the decline started way back.

                The average salary for the NBA/NFL players in 1970 was around $30k per year, today that figure is in the multi million range, NBA players are getting an average of 5 million per year.




                That then had an effect nationwide on collegiate sports, high school sports, middle school, youth sports. These sports are also easy to market to kids, shoes, socks, backpacks, shirts, shorts, jerseys, etc.


                That's another thing every school from middle school to college has a basketball team and a football team.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  Boxing isn't big here in the states. Top athletic talent is all going to football and basketball. Universities don't support boxing much either, you don't really get too many scholarships for boxing, but football...lol, yeah....that's BIG MONEY over here.

                  Yep college football is a billion dollar industry

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