Why are American heavyweights so bad?

[Monaco Slim]

Yea? Was Jamaica a ***in British colony when Lewis was born there? Nope, regardless where were the british for a hundred years? They were getting their shiet pushed in by Americans, thats where they were. I wouldnt get to carried away with your handful of title holders that have popped up in the last few years. The UK has still only produced 2 undisputed heavyweight champions in the last 120 or so years and only one who has defended it.

Considering that most of the last 100 years was just American vs American that's not really saying much. Now that the Brits are in to Boxing and now that the former soviet countries have been allowed to compete in Boxing, we're finding out who the real toughest people in the world are.

David Haye
Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua

There's no American man currently alive that could defeat any of those guys in a boxing match, I know you don't like to hear that, but that's a fact.

[MisterPullman]

Considering that most of the last 100 years was just American vs American that's not really saying much. Now that the Brits are in to Boxing and now that the former soviet countries have been allowed to compete in Boxing, we're finding out who the real toughest people in the world are.

David Haye
Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua

There's no American man currently alive that could defeat any of those guys in a boxing match, I know you don't like to hear that, but that's a fact.

Luis Ortiz beats all of them, wilder beats all except Joshua

[bojangles1987]

Because very little of our talent wants to box. Even the few decent boxers we do have are guys who failed at other sports. No one gives a **** about the sport here.

[bojangles1987]

America's best athletes are all playing other sports like the NBA/NFL, we have such a wide variety that are available to us before we even start school.

Joshua's physique and athleticism is nothing special in America, even Wilder is one of our bottom of the barrel athletes. Holyfield is another example of an athlete turned boxer, found boxing at his local YMCA.

This guy is 6'9 250lbs, 20 years old in this pic, typical college flame out like the millions before him:


That's where our heavies are.

I know none of these people who don't live in the US will ever recognize it, because they don't understand how this **** goes. Every halfway decent athlete is pushed into other sports at a very young age. Millions are playing football or basketball before they are even teens. There is a culture around football and basketball especially that is inescapable for most kids.

Like you posted here, there are probably hundreds of thousands of college athletes like that who will never see a boxing gym. If even a fifth of them were pushed into boxing as a kid, we would have much better boxers.

People can pretend all they want that boxing is just as popular as ever here and these sports have nothing to do with our crap heavyweights, but they have no idea what they're talking about. You would think the fact that our best heavyweights today are fighters who failed at these sports would make it pretty obvious.

[MASTERBX]

The least of our athletes are stiff competition for the best athletes of other countries.
You want to see American athletics at its best watch our b-ball players in the Olympics.
Those are just the ones that volunteered to kick your a*ss just for the fun of it.

[FrankieClutch]

Because American athletes of that size have become DE's, DT's, and OLB's in football or PF's and C's in basketball.

[soul_survivor]

This is a question I've been asking myself for almost my entire adult life. Banks, Mitchell, Jennings were all touted as something but ended up being nothing.

Pov probably would have KOd Wilder if he hadn't ended up being a typical Russian cheat.

According to Americans, it's because all the big black guys are going NBA or NFL...which can't be the reason because most of the NFL guys look like they could lose a stone or 2 and the NBA guys look like they could put some more on their bones.

So what's the real reason? It's pretty simple, the amateur system from 2004 on wards in the UK and in Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Russia is better funded and better maintained than the US system. That's the truth.

[pvj]

The main reason is if you are a talented big man in the states, you are much more likely at an early age to compete in other sports. Boxing sadly nowadays is a fringe sport at best in the US. If your over 6'4 and athletically talented, you're much more likely to pursue other sports such as basketball and football, which are more accepted.

Ding, ding, ding and the winner is...

Imagine kobe, lebron, or westbrook with that power, size and reflexes in a boxing ring with 15 years of technique and footwork to aide them.

[buge]

Ding, ding, ding and the winner is...

Imagine kobe, lebron, or westbrook with that power, size and reflexes in a boxing ring with 15 years of technique and footwork to aide them.

this is like Michael Jordan with baseball

just because someone is great at one sport doesn't mean he could've been great at another - who knows if they would've had any power or a chin, could take getting punched in the face at all for that matter, etc.

[bojangles1987]

this is like Michael Jordan with baseball

just because someone is great at one sport doesn't mean he could've been great at another - who knows if they would've had any power or a chin, could take getting punched in the face at all for that matter, etc.

The point is not if these single basketball players were boxers, it's if more of the hundreds of thousands of kids who grow up playing basketball and football went to a boxing gym, like they used to, then American heavyweights would be much better. That much is obvious simply by looking at who our best heavyweights are right now. They are high school football or basketball players that couldn't make it in college.

Used to be those kids weren't going for those sports like they do now. People don't understand just how ingrained football and basketball are into American culture. If you have any real talent, you get pushed towards those sports. That has only happened in the past 30 years or so. And what has happened to the American heavyweight scene in that time? It's gone to ****. That's not a coincidence no matter how much people outside America want to believe it is.