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In your opinion, what has been boxings biggest downfall over the passed couple years?

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  • #21
    The US cold war. Undoubtedly.

    Boxing is ****ed in so many ways, but this conflict has basically carved the traditional heartland of the sport in half.

    The list of fights that were missed of took way too long to make because of this is probably frightening if anyone had the time to look back over it.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by JACK1190 View Post
      Don't be silly son, we have the best HW on the planet in The Gypsy King.
      Nah gotta disagree,I'm a big fury fan but it's not the same,fury just got Klitschko's number,remember fury was lucky to get the win over sexton 1st time round....SON!

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      • #23
        It's obviously the lack of big, competitive fights getting made when they should and it's a problem that has been 5-6 years in the making.

        May/Pac is the most obvious example but there's also May/Cotto/Marg, Canelo/GGG, Wilder/anybody of note, Ward/anybody of note, Rigo/anybody of note, the welterweights/anybody of note etc etc etc.

        If the best fights don't get made or get made years too late, why should anybody watch? Especially in a market where top MMA fights are made every other month?

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        • #24
          In the US no question the rise of UFC which gave casual fight fans a great Alternative to not only see more exciting fights but also seeing the best fight the best immediately without having to wait for years

          Also UFC has a more CURRENT, up to date way of promoting their fights. Very active on all social media platforms, very active and have personal content for their youtube channel which has like 3 Million subscribers last time I checked so they know how to keep their fans interested while with Boxing you literally have to go search and find when a boxing even is going on

          Even as a boxing fans sometimes I have to google the start time for certain cards lol

          CANNOT be afraid of Controversy to become a Cross Over Superstar in boxing, casuals don't care for that boring PC BS people want some trash talking and some personality
          Last edited by sicko; 06-23-2016, 05:27 PM.

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          • #25
            Al Haymon. He overpriced fighters and taught them to fight bums for big bucks and now no one wants to fight tough competition. HBO lost interest in boxing because the good matches couldn't be made because thanks to AL almost everyone wants to fight bums for big bucks. Showtime barely gets a card because all the boxers that would fight there are in PBC.

            In conclusion Haymon made HBO and Showtime lose interest in boxing because he wants his fighters to be overpaid for fighting subpar competition. Al could have taken over but even in PBC he continues providing mismatches and to make it even worse they are spread in about 10 different channels making it impossible to follow.
            Last edited by elgu; 06-23-2016, 05:31 PM. Reason: wrote "and" instead or "are"

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Mc,Lovin View Post
              Nah gotta disagree,I'm a big fury fan but it's not the same,fury just got Klitschko's number,remember fury was lucky to get the win over sexton 1st time round....SON!
              Yeah that Sexton fight was a long old time ago son. Fury is the most complete fighter we have. No one in that division defeats him. I'm a big Froch fan but Froch only really made it big in the lasts few years of his career and he was technically flawed and Fury isn't. Froch was lucky to get the Dirrell decision but who cares he was still a great fighter, so your Sexton argument mean nothing because Fury is a different fighter, he's also a different fighter to the one who was floored against Cunningham. He doesn't really get hit and can take away your attribute and box your ears off. That sexton argument is something a casual would say.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                Basically, what has put boxing in this bad state right now? Casuals are not watching at all and diehards are complaining more than ever, some even jumping ship to other sports.

                Vote and please back up your vote with an well thought answer please.
                Boxing is not in a bad state and never has been, at least not in the last 40 years. The death of boxing has been declared numerous times in my lifetime (usually every five years or so), but somehow it keep rising from the ashes. Boxing was supposedly on its deathbed in the 1970s when Ali-Frazier revived it with their first two fights. It was supposedly on the verge of dying when Ali fought Foreman in 1975.

                It was declared to be on its deathbed again when Sugar Ray Leonard fought Marvin Hagler and miraculously revived it. It was supposedly in a coma when Mike Tyson fought Evander Holyfield and miraculously sold 1.9 million PPVs.

                In 2007, Mayweather vs De La Hoya was declared by all the experts as the fight to save boxing. What some considered to be a snoozefest sold 2.4 million PPVs. The naysayers claimed that number would never be reached again because of the anticlimactic nature of Mayweather vs. De La Hoya.

                Yet, in spite of the pronouncement of the death of the sport, Mayweather fought on and not only succeeded, but made 1 million PPV sales the measuring stick of a successful fight (selling 900,000 PPVs vs Hatton, 1 million PPVs versus Marquez, 1.4 million vs Mosley, 1.5 million vs Cotto, 2.2 million vs Alvarez and, of course, 4.5 million vs Pacquaio). Prior to Mayweather/De La Hoya, only heavyweight fights sold one million PPVs (with the exception of De La Hoya/Trinidad). The lower weight fights were averaging 300,000 to 450,000 PPVs. Now, if a fight sells 400,000 fights, it is considered a bust and proof that the sport is dying.

                Last year, a boxing match sold 4.5 million PPVs at $100 each. Yet, the sport is supposedly dying! There have been more fights on television in the last two year than there have been in the last 10 years combined and boxers are making more money than they ever dreamed of making. Yet, the sport is supposedly dying!

                I have one word for all the people who claim that boxing is in a bad state or dying: BULLS...T!

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by JACK1190 View Post
                  Yeah that Sexton fight was a long old time ago son. Fury is the most complete fighter we have. No one in that division defeats him. I'm a big Froch fan but Froch only really made it big in the lasts few years of his career and he was technically flawed and Fury isn't. Froch was lucky to get the Dirrell decision but who cares he was still a great fighter, so your Sexton argument mean nothing because Fury is a different fighter, he's also a different fighter to the one who was floored against Cunningham. He doesn't really get hit and can take away your attribute and box your ears off. That sexton argument is something a casual would say.
                  Calls me a casual....Tyson never even fought sexton...Checkmate SON!

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                  • #29
                    andre ward

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                    • #30
                      I voted others. The lacks of fights between the best two in a division, is what makes this sport's biggest downfall. On my opinion, consistently not fighting the best is the obvious reason.

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