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In your opinion, what has been boxings biggest downfall over the passed couple years?

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  • #71
    Pussification of America + May/PAC was a horrendous fight by both guys. I personally loved how technical it was, but that's all it was going to be. This wasn't 2009 when both guys could stand in the pocket and trade.

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    • #72
      A mixture of the following:

      1. The diva effect - originated with SRL, enhanced by DHL, Perfected by Mayweather, take to another level by Canelo and the current crop of boxers. To name a few: Quitto, Lara, GG to an extent, Ward, Quillin so on and so forth you get the picture. These guys have created a generation of duckers and dodgers to make money for themselves simultaneously killing the sport.

      2. The PPV model: This has been ****ed up, **** fights are on PPV and no one is buying them. Nobody asked for half of Canelos fights, I give GG a pass cause it was his first time and he wont go back unless its a big fight (K2 learnt their lesson). Pac Bradley trilogy. May-Berto etc. And its not that you have to always have a head turning matchup every time. At least have solid undercards so people get their value for money.

      3. AL Haymon/GBP/HBO/Bob Arum/SHO Beef: This maybe the biggest root cause matchups are prevented, and if they are made over a prolonged period of time. With the UFC as soon as a fighter has a fight. A week or 2 later they are signed up to fight 3 months down the line. They need to break these delusional barriers work together and make more money than they would competing against one another.

      4. UFC: Though i'm not fully convinced UFC is taking over, I think its just the lack of intriguing boxing matches that makes the UFC seem loud publicly. People are talking about it more cause mad stuff is always going on in the UFC. Now if we had 50/50 match ups like Thurman/Porter the tide would change.

      Ohhh Yeah i forgot May Pac sort of left a sour taste in the casual fans mouth. So that left a nice steaming turd on boxing...
      Last edited by HWChampion; 06-27-2016, 07:41 PM. Reason: forgot may pac lol

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      • #73
        Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
        How can anyone blame Pac-May when you have things like Jones-Hopkins II and Holyfield-Tyson that took just as long. It didnt stop all the people Manny and Floyd introduced to the sport from getting into.

        Boxing used to be a premier sport in the US, now it's a niche sport. I don't like it, but I accept it. It is what it is.
        Originally posted by ElBossHogg View Post
        the pussification of the sport spearheaded by the Mayweather and supported by the ****** black youths of america.

        Now all these boxers who come out of these ******s in america immediately want 30million guarantee for their first real fight or else no fight.
        I disagree I think its pu$$ys like canelo who will duck and dodge a fight in every way imaginable and ignorant confused ****** mexicans than support his b!tch @ss

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        • #74
          The ducking is one of the most obvious reasons, crazy scoring/ripping off boxers, only fighting once or twice a year if that.

          If these guys got paid a little less per fight but were more active and on TV more, they would gain more exposure and start to build a rapport with the fans. People wonder why GGG is gaining so much momentum, well he fights twice as much as the other guys for starters.

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          • #75
            Basically Floyd turned boxing into a money grab marathon hugging event that resonated around the world. Ruined boxing and turned boxing lose a few steps. It didn't go forward it actually went backward. Add the cherry picking low risk path of less resistance fighters now a days are following the Floyd mayweather diva ways. That's why boxing went tumbling down to what we are now.

            Been watching fights live for over 45 years, I'll take mine for actual experience!
            The guy is not a boxer who fights he's a boxer who runs. Defensive specialists is another word for "no power won't fight"!
            Pep was a defensive specialists and was on the move all the time but he also out scored his opponents similar to Ali and when they felt they could stop their opponents they went for it.
            When your (Floyds) corner man is begging you to do something and you don't comply to his experiences just call it what it is!!!

            His own corner thought he lost!
            I didn't watch that closely because the out come was predetermined
            , I'm just happy the guy is gone.
            Last edited by Spoon23; 06-27-2016, 11:18 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by HWChampion View Post

              Ohhh Yeah i forgot May Pac sort of left a sour taste in the casual fans mouth. So that left a nice steaming turd on boxing...
              This says it all.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
                There are lots of issues with boxing, the biggest one is the puzzyfication of boxing, the boring safety-first styles. Excessive clinching/holding without actually in-fighting and RUNNING is damaging boxing. Those issues have to be dealt with someway or boxing will continue to stagnate and alienate many fan bases.
                Perfection. You my friend brought out the illness now let's find the cure!

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by ElBossHogg View Post
                  the pussification of the sport spearheaded by the Mayweather and supported by the ****** black youths of america.

                  Now all these boxers who come out of these ******s in america immediately want 30million guarantee for their first real fight or else no fight.
                  The pussification by Floyd lol good one

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