What Should Gennady Golovkin Do Next?

[Beercules]

have a stay busy fight vs Malinaggi...then Broner...then Danny Garcia

Paulie KO's Golovkin in 4 with a grazing jab.


Too risky Mak. You want to see the Good Boy leave on a stretcher ?

[ИATAS]

Yep. Can't even suggest a think outside the box situation. I asked yesterday and couldn't get a serious response or a serious plan different from mine.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=714895

Seems like people think. Canelo is the endgame for GGG and they should continue on the path they've been going. That same path that has led to nothing. His fans are content with covering their ears and yelling "nobody wants to fight him" but don't realize money is the reason he can't get fights. If somebody is offering more money to get the big fights you go where the money is. This isn't unusual. All fighters have done it.

What? No. Most all GGG fans want him to get the big and best fights. The problem has been making those fights actually materialize. I looked at your thread, which is suggesting leaving HBO and I assume go to PBC/Showtime. So his options then are Lara, Jacobs and for some reason you included Billy Joe Saunders but that's the exact same situation regardless since BJS and his manager simply don't want to make the fight right now. Honestly, it's the same problems. What's the endgame over at Showtime, Degale? Jack?

[NEETzsche]

i think he should face both lara and eubank this year. lara for the boxing nerds and eubank for the casuals

[b00g13man]

I'm over his career right now. He had a chance to go for glory, and decided not to. Meh.

[Motorcity Cobra]

What? No. Most all GGG fans want him to get the big and best fights. The problem has been making those fights actually materialize. I looked at your thread, which is suggesting leaving HBO and I assume go to PBC/Showtime. So his options then are Lara, Jacobs and for some reason you included Billy Joe Saunders but that's the exact same situation regardless since BJS and his manager simply don't want to make the fight right now. Honestly, it's the same problems. What's the endgame over at Showtime, Degale? Jack?

Billie Joe said he wanted more money. He said he was offered $1.5 mil for the fight. BJS doesn't really have much going on. He was holding out for that Eubank rematch. That would've made him more than the $1.5 mil he was offered.

GGG going over to the UK to face Eubank Jr. proves HBO isn't offering enough money to get him fights. Why should GGG, the IBF, WBA, WBC champ have to travel to face Eubank Jr on a Matchroom card? What has Eubank Jr done to get a champ to come over and fight him? GGG has no problem selling out stadiums here. He does good ratings on HBO. It makes no sense for him to travel and I haven't seen a fighter as popular as GGG travel to fight a non-champ in his backyard. It'll be spun as GGG building his brand in the UK but K2 would much rather have the fight here as the lead promoter and running their own PPV which is more expensive in the states. So HBO can buy the fight for a smaller fee than it would've cost to put on the fight here. That's why Kovalev is going to Russia to fight. They didn't have the money to put on a fight here. Also why Ward is fighting Brand. Didn't even have the money for Cleverly or Sharbanskky.

Anthony Joshua got the whole heavyweight division lined up to get KO'd for a big payday. If guys were getting good money to fight GGG they'd be lined up too. Mike Tyson never had that problem because guys got paid well to get KO'd. At the end of the day it's prize fighting and all guys are going to consider risk vs reward. Even Loeffler admitted they'd go to UK to fight Froch at 168 or fight Chavez Jr at 168 because those were big money fights.

[ИATAS]

Billie Joe said he wanted more money. He said he was offered $1.5 mil for the fight. BJS doesn't really have much going on. He was holding out for that Eubank rematch. That would've made him more than the $1.5 mil he was offered.

That's according to BJS. Other reports were he was offered more money. BJS is a Twitter warrior. If he doesn't want to fight he doesn't want to fight. Being on Showtime isn't going to change that unless you believe Showtime will put up $4m for Saunders and at least $4m for Golovkin. Not happening, no one knows who BJS not even in the UK.

[QUOTE ]GGG going over to the UK to face Eubank Jr. proves HBO isn't offering enough money to get him fights. Why should GGG, the IBF, WBA, WBC champ have to travel to face Eubank Jr on a Matchroom card? What has Eubank Jr done to get a champ to come over and fight him? GGG has no problem selling out stadiums here. He does good ratings on HBO. It makes no sense for him to travel and I haven't seen a fighter as popular as GGG travel to fight a non-champ in his backyard. It'll be spun as GGG building his brand in the UK but K2 would much rather have the fight here as the lead promoter and running their own PPV which is more expensive in the states. So HBO can buy the fight for a smaller fee than it would've cost to put on the fight here. That's why Kovalev is going to Russia to fight. They didn't have the money to put on a fight here. Also why Ward is fighting Brand. Didn't even have the money for Cleverly or Sharbanskky. [/QUOTE]

How is Showtime going to fix all that? I don't see Showtime spending big time money either. Showtime is horrible right now when it comes to ratings it's a risky move going to Showtime at this point.

Anthony Joshua got the whole heavyweight division lined up to get KO'd for a big payday. If guys were getting good money to fight GGG they'd be lined up too. Mike Tyson never had that problem because guys got paid well to get KO'd. At the end of the day it's prize fighting and all guys are going to consider risk vs reward. Even Loeffler admitted they'd go to UK to fight Froch at 168 or fight Chavez Jr at 168 because those were big money fights.

Joshua is a big star in the UK and brings in big money. Hell, he sold 400,000 PPVs against a low level guy in the UK. That's not normal.

Again, not seeing how moving to Showtime fixes these issues at all.

[JACK1190]

Golovkin is the biggest b*tch in boxing IMO. Wants everything his own way. Not willing to move up or down. How Americans can support him and not their own fighter shocks me. **** him. He will retire an no one will remember him because he wasn't willing to budge and fought no one. ****ing p*ssy.

[-PBP-]

he should fight Lara...can Lara fight on HBO?

That's the question. If they allowed Willie Monroe and Dominic Wade I'm sure they can bring Lara into the mix. They blow money on Andre Ward vs. Elton Brand and GGG vs. Dwyane Wade. And put fights like Crawford/Postol on PPV.

I just don't see why they wouldn't consider this.

[Motorcity Cobra]

That's according to BJS. Other reports were he was offered more money. BJS is a Twitter warrior. If he doesn't want to fight he doesn't want to fight. Being on Showtime isn't going to change that unless you believe Showtime will put up $4m for Saunders and at least $4m for Golovkin. Not happening, no one knows who BJS not even in the UK.

[QUOTE ]GGG going over to the UK to face Eubank Jr. proves HBO isn't offering enough money to get him fights. Why should GGG, the IBF, WBA, WBC champ have to travel to face Eubank Jr on a Matchroom card? What has Eubank Jr done to get a champ to come over and fight him? GGG has no problem selling out stadiums here. He does good ratings on HBO. It makes no sense for him to travel and I haven't seen a fighter as popular as GGG travel to fight a non-champ in his backyard. It'll be spun as GGG building his brand in the UK but K2 would much rather have the fight here as the lead promoter and running their own PPV which is more expensive in the states. So HBO can buy the fight for a smaller fee than it would've cost to put on the fight here. That's why Kovalev is going to Russia to fight. They didn't have the money to put on a fight here. Also why Ward is fighting Brand. Didn't even have the money for Cleverly or Sharbanskky.

How is Showtime going to fix all that? I don't see Showtime spending big time money either. Showtime is horrible right now when it comes to ratings it's a risky move going to Showtime at this point.



Joshua is a big star in the UK and brings in big money. Hell, he sold 400,000 PPVs against a low level guy in the UK. That's not normal.

Again, not seeing how moving to Showtime fixes these issues at all.[/QUOTE]

I saw an interview with Warren and Saunders on IFL in January saying the offer was good but it wasn't enough. Warren actually had a good explanition as to how the fight could be made. Then Saunders said it was $1.5 mil. Nobody has said anything differently and K2 never said how much they offered.

I see Showtime spending more money on their cards than HBO is spending now. Showtime is investing in boxing. It doesn't hurt to entertain offers from others. It's worked for Floyd, Tyson, Lewis, Pacquiao, and many others.

Canelo doesn't want to fight GGG. They won't even put anything on paper. So what's plan B for GGG? I don't think my idea is crazy because it's been done so many times before. Also what's the endgame for GGG? Is it Canelo or bust?

[New England]

I've been calling for the Lara fight for at least 18 months now. There's really no reason why the promoters can't make this fight. Lara's the most technically skilled 154lber and would be Golovkin best opponent to date.

lara has never fought at 160, and has a loss to canelo alvarez. he's also got a draw with vanes, a draw with molina that could easily be a molina win, and he got knocked aroudn the ring by alfredo freaking angulo prior to the stoppage.


that's not a better win than martin murray, who could easily have been the MW champion of the world when he fought golovkin. or lemieux, a contender at 160 lbs [instead of 154,] with knockout punching power.


there have been cases where one could argue that a fighter from a weight class below would be the best opponent a champion from the weight above has faced, but typically those are discussions of legit pound for pound fighters, or a case where the smaller fighter is the higher ranked p4p fighter.


lara isn't close to the p4p list. if you've got him there you're not even looking as far back as 2014, when he didn't do enough to beat canelo, even when canelo didn't do much at all himself.


people bring lara up as a boogyman. in part because he's a guy golovkin can't fight, or at least it's a fight that's going to be tough to make.

make no mistake, hbo and k2 would sign that fight tomrorow if lara took the 100K willie monroe took, or even the 500K that dominic wade took. the problem is that lara and his people aren't going to take that kind of money to fight golovkin. you need a willie wade for that now that golovkin is commanding high ratings and earning more than a million dollars for a regular hbo fight.


if you want to see lara - golovkin it will be on PPV. don't know what kind of obligation lara has to showtime, but golovkin has an obligation to HBO by all accounts. at the very least, he's obligated to them in the sense that on hbo is where the biggest fight in boxing is goign to happen, the focus of golovkin's career under any sound business plan, a fight with canelo in 2017.