Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Coach: Canelo Fight Needs No Warming Up, It's Boiling!

[HeroBando]

How about this? How about GGG's promoter calls Lara or Al Haymon and make Lara an offer? I mean, that is Loeffler's job. Loeffler has talked to Eubank Jr.'s people several times already. Obviously they feel that a fight with Eubank Jr. is a better option. Many will disagree. It is better financially, but it does nothing for GGG's legacy. I say, if no Lara, go up and snatch a title @ 168!

Lara does nothing for his legacy either. Huge underdogs from lower divisions tend not to do much for legacy

[Bronx2245]

Lara does nothing for his legacy either. Huge underdogs from lower divisions tend not to do much for legacy

Lara is better than everybody he's fought, and I believe he earned at least a draw vs. Canelo, and GGG wants Canelo...even without a MW title!

[HeroBando]

Lara is better than everybody he's fought, and I believe he earned at least a draw vs. Canelo, and GGG wants Canelo...even without a MW title!

Canelo is the biggest fight in boxing, not so much a legacy fight though unlike Lara Canelo is p4p and lineal Mw champ.

[ELPacman]

That is correct. If the fight had truly reached it's boiling point, it was when Canelo had GGG in the damn ring and acted like he had a pair of balls.

Oh well, boxing is the sport that has plenty of disappointments and this is just another one to add to the list.

[aboutfkntime]

I've been a huge GGG supporter .....

thanks for clearing that up, we initially thought you were just another dopey golovtard alt.....

.....and this is obviously Canelo's fault.....

well, what do ya know..... we were right

saved me reading the rest of that rubbish

..... first and foremost, just like it's been Quillen and Danny Jacobs' fault for also ducking him.

But wouldn't you know, today Tom Loeffler, GGG's promoter, was playing the role of apologist for Canelo, saying they'd prefer the fight now, but that Canelo wanted to build it for the fall and that was fine.

As much as everyone has ducked him, Tom Loeffler has also shown zero urgency to get top opponents in the ring. He clearly does not care about GGG's legacy, and is more than happy to see him keep getting good paydays against no-hopers, building his name, which he knows he will be able to cash in on eventually in a super fight vs Canelo. If it comes when GGG is 40 years old and he loses, Tom Loeffler could not care less, because he will stay get the payday, and that's what matters to him.

So while I definitely can never support Canelo, Quillen, Danny Jacobs, or any of the other duckers who ducked GGG, I can't really support GGG anymore either. I will still watch his fights and root for him the fighter because he's an exciting talent and a likable guy, but in terms of the GGG train at large and his legacy, what is there to root for anymore? Nothing. They are marinating the fight that, besides the money, was supposed to be a stepping stone. He was supposed to get Canelo last year so he could get all the belts and move up to 168 while he was still in his prime and actually forge a legacy.

Now he's going to be 35 by the time he fights Canelo, and 36 by the time he moves up to 168, where he will get beat once he faces a top guy because punchers rely on incredible strength and athleticism to impose their will on elusive fighters over 12 rounds who have the advantages of speed and holding. Just like Tyson, GGG will not be the same GGG anymore for long. Tom Loeffler, in caring more about $ than anything else, was more than happy to let the rest of boxing run out the clock on GGG's prime, and now they have. I rooted for GGG because I thought he would be a true great and that we would see him in amazing, historically relevant fights where he would surprise everyone and come through against fighters like Ward. Now I know we will never see any of them, so we will never know. If he ever does fight someone of the caliber of Ward, it won't be until he's 36 or 37 years old, and he will either win in a dud or lose, very much like Mayweather-Pacquiao.

GGG was supposed to be the guy that moved boxing forward after the Mayweather-Pacquiao fiasco. He wasn't supposed to be a repeat of it. Just because he might get Canelo in time before his prime runs out doesn't matter. Loeffler does not get it, Canelo is not a historically significant fight. He was supposed to be a stepping stone, a name, nothing more, a step towards bigger things. Instead they are trying to make him into the historically significant fight, make him into GGG's end goal, when everyone knows GGG will beat him easy unless he gets old. So what's the point? I want to watch fights that determine who the best is, not whether a fighter is old or not. I already know prime GGG is better than prime Canelo so again what is the point?

They were supposed to get this fight over with. A big money, action fight, but a mismatch. Instead they are milking it like it's the fight we actually want to see. They are taking years out of GGG's legacy time to milk a fight that will do nothing for his legacy. So what's to root for?

I am sick of Tom Loeffler wasting this fighter's career. I held out hope until the end that he would finally step on the gas, but now we're there, the end. GGG is 34. It's not even fall 2016, and they are talking about fall 2017. A few months ago people were apologizing for them saying give them until May 2017 before you get upset, even though it wasn't even May 2016 at that time. Now it's past May 2016, but not even fall 2016, and they are saying fall 2017. I'm sick of the bull****. Enough. I can't support this anymore. This doesn't mean GGG haters were right, because if they'd actually blamed Quillen and Danny Jacobs and pressured those fights into happening, we might not be here. But those fighters were black so they got a free pass. But one thing is definitely true, Loeffler shows no urgency and now the chickens have come home to roost. Year after year passed with no urgency, and here we are, GGG still isn't going to get his big fight until he's 35, and that big fight is not even a legacy fight.

Maybe Loeffler will get him legacy fights at 36 lol? 37? Except by that point he will be old, so they won't be legacy fights anymore, they will be old GGG fights, not the performances we wanted to see. Which means the way it's all laid out, Loeffler has now put it in stone that GGG will go his whole career without any legacy fights. It's a damn shame for a fighter of his caliber and we will always ask what could have been. I believe he has the talent of an all time great, and I've been waiting ever since the Proksa fight for Loeffler to get him an opponent where he could show it. Now I know that will never happen during his prime, so I'm moving on. Boxing disappoints once again. I will keep watching for the entertainment, while skipping the PPVs, but from a career legacy standpoint, I now know GGG's career is over before Loeffler even got it started. A damn shame, and another example of a promoter who does not care about his fighter or the sport, just money. Loeffler will go down as the promoter who wasted the entire prime of one of boxing's most talented fighters, and never gave him a chance to show how good he was.

genius.....


1) how the hell did the guy who said this.....

Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....

http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398?var=no

..... miss out on Ward/Canelo/Cotto AND Mayweather ?

Someone is utterly FULL-OF-****, and I think I know who LMAO


2) how the hell could you possibly blame Canelo, for Golovkin saying this..... Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....

http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398?var=no

[aboutfkntime]

Well unfortunately Golovkin is most definitely not the 'biggest name' in boxing right now. He is a big name among followers of the sport, but casual fans have at best a 'casual' recognition of him. If we are talking about name-recognition in terms of money making potential, Golovkin isn't there. It's a shame, because if he truly was the biggest name, he'd be able to get more of these 'duckers' in the ring.

To those that say GGG hasn't fought anybody, get over yourselves. He has consistently fought top 10 opposition in his weight class as well as mandatory defenses for the three belts he holds. Also, don't forget it isn't as if he is simply winning against these fighters. He is demolishing them with KO's every single time. To those that say 'I can't wait until X fighter exposes lil g', just how many fighters out there between 154-168 do you think could do that. Now seriously answer, how many of you would bet on that fighter beating GGG when even-money is on the line? I'll take your bets at any time.

These other fighters (Canelo/Quillen/Jacobs/Saunders/etc) aren't avoiding Golovkin because he is a no-name or does nothing for them. They are avoiding him because they know to lose to him could be to lose in more ways then one. Not only do you potentially get another loss on your record, there is a likely-hood you take quite a beating on the way to doing so.

What I don't get with what is happening recently is seemingly how K2/Loeffler is amiable to waiting until Fall 2017. I think they are so fearful this fight won't happen they are willing to do whatever GB wants to make it happen. Fall 2017 tells me GB isn't serious whatsoever about the fight, and K2/GGG's team is far too desperate to make it happen. At the point that date came up, if I was GGG's team I would have said 'f that' and started publicly shaming Canelo and trolling the crap out of him.

you are an idiot for repeating that dribble.....

he beat Murray, and he beat Pepe Le Pew, you clown.....

..... just what we needed, yet another dopey golovtard alt.

[aboutfkntime]

the alt's are pouring out of the woodwork LMAO

[DJ_Quaaludes]

you are an idiot for repeating that dribble.....

he beat Murray, and he beat Pepe Le Pew, you clown.....

..... just what we needed, yet another dopey golovtard alt.

Great, just what I needed, some guy completely ignoring logic, drinking haterade, and name-calling.

Nice counterargument bro.

[bballchump11]

Why in the hell did yall agree to it then? Yall allowed Canelo and Cotto to kick the can down the road multiple times now. People were yelling and crying for Ward to move up when he was waiting to fight GGG. It's almost time for GGG to take his old butt to 168.

[Nomadic]

Still chasing the money fight I see, the boy is not currently fighting at 160. Giving up the belt was proof of it.