When was the last time someone called Andre Ward out?

[therealpugilist]

Froch was a G. I miss him.

I ***s with the Cobra too....wish they had a rematch....the first fight was entertaining and more competitive than people remember....even myself....watched it in its entirety a few days ago

[therealpugilist]

its hard to call out ward.

you know there are certain disadvantageous prerequisites right off the bat if you want a fight with ward.

money advantage his.
fight in oakland.
his weight class.

ward's talent is pretty visible and he has the resume to back it up. Ward is HIGH RISK, LOW REWARD.

if you are a boxer who is lesser, why even bother?

he moved up to 175 so I wouldnt say "his weight class" he isnt exactly a big light heavyweight considered he turned pro fighting at 163-165 until the super 6


I think promotional wise and risk/reward wise....Ward is where mayweather was around the time he fought Gatti

pre-cash cow money floyd and people could avoid him because he was high risk-low reward.....he isnt a star yet just as Ward isnt now...he is known but no draw

[therealpugilist]

I'm pretty sure if he were to be the #1 guy with all the belts, people would go after him. He's not a draw so that's the only option.

I think that is why he is going after kovalev.....it'll be hard to deny a fighter who cleaned up his era at one weight, then beat the precieved "monster" at the next weight.

Virgil Hunter made statement that resonates in my head. He said " Andre may not be a star or become a super star but he will be a fighter that BEATS super stars"

Pernell Whitaker went through it, he was never a draw, wasnt a big ticket seller, and lesser fighters were stars in his era but everyone involved in boxing knew they were watching some one special when he was in the ring.

[Devon37]

....who said it was? Just asked to see if any of you guys recall anyone pushing to fight Ward...nothing more or less

Well yeah no one really other than Froch. Although generally the only reason fighters call out other fighters is because either they hold a belt or they bring a lot of money. Ward hasn't had either of those for a while.

[KLockard23]

Because some people are ******* and if they can't get something good out of it (money), then they see no point in taking such a hard fight to win.

[SterlingStained]

he moved up to 175 so I wouldnt say "his weight class" he isnt exactly a big light heavyweight considered he turned pro fighting at 163-165 until the super 6


I think promotional wise and risk/reward wise....Ward is where mayweather was around the time he fought Gatti

pre-cash cow money floyd and people could avoid him because he was high risk-low reward.....he isnt a star yet just as Ward isnt now...he is known but no draw

he was a 175lb amateur. he's been basically a 168lb his whole career.

168 = 175 if you take into account the fact that super middle wasnt an original weight class.

Ward hard has basically replicated Joe Calzaghe's career.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I think that is why he is going after kovalev.....it'll be hard to deny a fighter who cleaned up his era at one weight, then beat the precieved "monster" at the next weight.

Virgil Hunter made statement that resonates in my head. He said " Andre may not be a star or become a super star but he will be a fighter that BEATS super stars"

Pernell Whitaker went through it, he was never a draw, wasnt a big ticket seller, and lesser fighters were stars in his era but everyone involved in boxing knew they were watching some one special when he was in the ring.

*Sigh* You guys are still in fantasy land claiming Ward cleaned a division. He never did that. Anyways, I really do hope if Ward were to beat Kovalev, he doesn't ruin the momentum like he did with Froch. He has a diva attitude and it scares me because I just want to see good fights. I'm paying for HBO and boxing is one of the reasons, at least make my money worth it with good fights.

[therealpugilist]

he was a 175lb amateur. he's been basically a 168lb his whole career.

168 = 175 if you take into account the fact that super middle wasnt an original weight class.

Ward hard has basically replicated Joe Calzaghe's career.

if you followed his career you'd know he didnt fight at light heavy in the amatuers until Olympic qualifiers and tourneys leading up to them


USA didnt have a light heavy and Andre Dirrell was simply not as good as Ward so Ward moved up so Dirrell could have a shot at middleweight gold

he didnt do anything at the weight til augiust 2002 when he won the under 19 nationals and was middleweight USA am champion in '01 at middleweight


If he was filled out at 179, he wouldnt have been able to get back to 165 and under in the pros

he fought well under 168 before the super 6 a few times.

[sicko]

Maybe Lucian Bute who sat back and let everybody else fight each other in the Super 6 then after the Dust was cleared he showed up trying to be bold claiming that he "Want To Fight". Chad Dawson also who not only issued the challenge but said he would come down which we all know now was a huge mistake other than that NOBODY!

Ward is one of the best P4P in the world and he basically has to chase down opponents and make calls just to find guys who are WILLING to fight! That is more of a credit to him and shows you how much respect other fighters have for him but also how WEAK this ERA is in which guys have ZERO Desire to fight the very best to try and beat them and make a name for themselves. Even now at 175 none of them are even MENTIONING Ward!

[therealpugilist]

*Sigh* You guys are still in fantasy land claiming Ward cleaned a division. He never did that. Anyways, I really do hope if Ward were to beat Kovalev, he doesn't ruin the momentum like he did with Froch. He has a diva attitude and it scares me because I just want to see good fights. I'm paying for HBO and boxing is one of the reasons, at least make my money worth it with good fights.

at the time the top 168ers were kessler, froch and Abraham.....get over it

Also all 3 went on to do good things after he beat them

Calzaghe beat Kessler to become the true man there a while before...you cant rewrite history

who did he miss? Bute? Bute has lost to every top supermiddleweight he faced.

cant rewrite history...now its Jack and DeGale's division