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Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce View PostNot really. Froch, Kessler and Dirrell never moved up. Ward has beat no one of note at 175 where he drags up supermiddleweights. According to all the GGG detractors, GGG isn't great because he doesn't move up.
So what makes all the bolded so much better than Murray, Macklin or Geale?
They were lucky to have each other in their divisions and they fought each other. GGG doesn't have those type of fighters in his division.
If you really need someone to explain why Froch, Kessler and Dirrell are the better fighters then you can just stop replying. Seriously they at a weight class above are all faster, all hit harder p4p, all have better Defense and Skills in literally every way. FFS Murray lost to Abraham, Froch and Dirrell schooled him. Seriously WAKE THE FU(K UP.
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Originally posted by SniXSniPe View PostWow. You are incredibly ****** and say anything to suit your agenda. I didn't even mention any of those three when I listed some solid fighters in the division to prove my point that the middleweight division isn't much weaker than super middleweight during Ward's era. Besides, not mentioning those three, I didn't even say they were better than any of the guys you named. Keep twisting words being spoken, you dumb****.
My god. You say some of the dumbest things I've ever read. You're either unintelligent, ignorant, or trolling.
Lol @ comparing amateur Olympic boxing to professional boxing. You can't be serious, right?
Explain to me how Canelo, a man who is shorter with narrower shoulders and smaller arms, chest and back than GGG weighs more than him fight night???? I dare you not to answer as a Golovkin nuthugger, I dare you as a man to be honest. Go on Coward, grow some fu(king balls.
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Originally posted by Swatty View PostHmmm... so you think he's like a small Ward? Ward's techniques work on shorter fighters. GGG isn't shorter than Eubank and throws too hard... the dirty stuff won't work on GGG... same reason Ward will have an impossible task with Kovalev... he's not the bigger guy, Kovalev will easily deal with Ward's attempts at fighting dirty. Hopkins got carried by Kov after Kov made it clear the dirty stuff wouldn't work and evaded the head butts with ease.
As for Kovalev/Ward - it would be a grave mistake by Kovalev to go into that fight thinking he'll beat Ward on physical advantages. Ward's a legit sized LHW. People always remarked how physically strong he was at SMW. I could see Ward being the stronger on the inside and wrestling Kovalev, but Kovalev's pretty smart and smooth and knows how to apply his power.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostThat's a big IF, and it's facing another, even bigger one: If Eubank can't handle Golovkin's power, what then?
You need a plan B against somebody like GGG. And because of Jr's inexperience, he wouldn't have anything to fall back on if Golovkin started hurting and shaking him. Except the canvas, of course!
I fear Jr will end up getting hurt badly if this fight goes ahead. And if that happens, the self belief and swagger which are integral to his whole approach to boxing might be gone forever.
So basically, you are complaining that Team Bull**** are selecting yet another weak opponent?
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostPeople who know and understand the game call bullshit whenever a fighter turns down a big money offer by saying the opponent "needs to prove himself"
Ward didn't fancy Bute, and that's a fact.
If Bute's promoter had made the same offer to Ward AFTER Bute got KTFO by Froch, Andre would have accepted it in a heartbeat. And that's another fact.
You utter ******, that is EXACTLY what Team Bull**** did to Ward.
Did you not even realize that as you typed it ?
You UTTER fanboy clown LMAO
So, you think that it is..... "bullshit when a fighter turns down an opponent by saying that he "needs to prove himself"..... EXCEPT when Hypekin does it LMAO.....
..... AND. you think that a fighter refusing to fight a guy who called him out, is a duck..... even if that fighter is the best in his division, and the other guy has never fought a world opponent EVER?
How many times have I exposed your ******ity ?
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Originally posted by Metho_4u View PostAt least Canelo would have moved up. This argument also holds no water btw. Canelo, like him or not, HAS fought top opposition. He has fought Floyd, Lara, Trout, and Cotto, allhad decent shots at winning (with one schooling). I don't include Angulo, Kirkland, etc, because they suck. My point is that he has fought some guys who were top fighters, yet again, GayLoveKin has not done that
Don't exclude Angulo..... he was genuinely ranked at #4..... is no worse than Lemieux..... and he was much better than most of these "top10" guys that the fanboys roll out for Golovkin.
They include Stevens and Monroe, so yea, Angulo stays.
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Originally posted by LeonSpinxMwfpce View PostHe has as much time as anyone, especially Bernard Hopkins, who didn't fight Tito until he was 36, and Oscar when he was 39. So in reality, GGG has paced himself pretty well.
you guys come across as really ****** sometimes
1) don't compare Hypekin to Hopkins, there is literally NO similarity
2) what Hopkins did after he turned 40, is extraordinary..... and is an exception to the rule..... it is a HUGE CALL to insinuate that lil'G could even come close to matching those feats, even if you love him dearly..... Hopkins is not "anyone", most guys are done by 35yo
3) stating that a 35yo 10-year vet who has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING within the sport has..... "paced himself pretty well"...... is beyond absurd.
How has Canelo "paced himself" then..... ? considering that he is a 25yo kid who is starting to build a very good resume? Let me guess..... terrible, right?
Get help !
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