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  • #51
    Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
    Your comparing Maidana pre-Garcia. Garcia made him, MUCH,much better. All you have to do is look how he did against P4P #1 and the best of this generation.

    Go back and watch his fights before Garcia. Yes trainers do actually matter...
    I agree with you about Garcia helping Chino improve. Maidana started as a crude fighter who relied on a good chin and a powerful right hand plus tons of grit to get him to the big fight level. Garcia added a good jab and better defense to take him to the next level. Like I said Chino was good and fun to watch but never an elite guy.IMO

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    • #52
      Originally posted by punchr View Post
      Maidana was a defensive brawler who had excellent head movement. He was very good at timing incoming punches. He often rolled his shoulder too. You're wrong about him taking 3 to give 1; when has Maidana ever been battered? I've never seen him with cuts all over his face and swollen eyes, that's a credit to his defense.

      Also, Broner fought Paulie Malignaggi for Paulie's WBA belt before he fought Maidana. It wasn't AB's fight fight at 147.
      My bad. Broner had fought at WW before he fought Maidana. (Damn, he was WW champ. WTF)
      You gotta love Chino, but I still think he had a crude, brawling style. Fan friendly but one dimensional. IMO

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      • #53
        Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
        I think at this point he is NEVER returning. He's been off for way too long


        ali and louis, the two best HW ever, had longer layoffs. louis didn't fight from june of 48 to september of 50. ali was out for 3.5 years. march of 67 to the end of october of 70.


        it's not just a matter of timing with maidana. it's how he lives, and how little lasting love he's shown for boxing. he made his money and now he's going to retire in argentina as a wealthy man.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
          My bad. Broner had fought at WW before he fought Maidana. (Damn, he was WW champ. WTF)
          You gotta love Chino, but I still think he had a crude, brawling style. Fan friendly but one dimensional. IMO
          He's not crude or one dimensional. That's a common misconception.

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          • #55
            preemptive ducking by gift garcia smdh.....

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            • #56
              garcia's basically been retired for years. these "fights" he has been having remind me of tyson when he fougth corrie trex sanders on ppv. jokes

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              • #57
                maidana should comeback.

                there is a lot of money to be made with these welterweight matchups.

                the fact that he fought floyd and fought competitively is worth money and leverage in a lot of these potentially explosive fights.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
                  Maidana had loads of heart and was fun to watch but in any other era this "2 time champ" would be a good journeyman fighter. Chino was a plodder and a brawler, who would take 3 punches to land one. He had a champion's heart and a great will to win but his boxing skills were limited.
                  Maidana was dominated by Alexander (a guy who lost every time he stepped up in class) and was being schooled by an old, out of shape Morales, before he won a close decision.
                  Broner was untested and fighting at 147 for the first time when Maidana beat him, setting Chino up for his 2 fights with FM.
                  The way boxing is these days we'll soon see Chino in the HOF but don't believe the hype.
                  Why do people like you always bring up Alexander and Khan when his improvement was CLEARLY AFTER (AFTER) [AFTER] A.F.T.E.R he joined Garcia? Clear enough? AFTER. Should I say it again? AFTER. It's frustrating that some people are so thickheaded. Someone should slap it into you, ffs...it's like if I say "How can Pacquiao beat Broner? He lost to Rustico Torrecampo in 1996" Like the f**k dude...

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    garcia's basically been retired for years. these "fights" he has been having remind me of tyson when he fougth corrie trex sanders on ppv. jokes
                    You mean Danny? I think Robert is speaking.

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                    • #60
                      Enjoy the retirement

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