Comments Thread For: Warren: Golovkin-Saunders Possible - If Billy Joe is Properly Paid

[LacedUp]

So if he feels hes worth 10 million, its all good, right?

I would say there's a big difference between asking for a couple of mil to fight the most devastating guy on the planet and being ridiculous.

Guys here are acting like BJS should take peanuts which is downright ******.

[bboy80]

600k is reasonable isnt it fish eyes, thats what they offered Brook to move up and fight Liam Smith lol.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Don't forget Loeffler was flat out asked how much they offered Saunders and he said "life changing money". He was also point blank asked if it was $4 million and he joked and said he couldn't give exact figures but the writer of the article came away believing it was that much and why EVERYONE said Saunders DUCKED. We all know now he was not offered even close to that....That was kind of a dic move on Loeffler

Yep, real **** move. Now they aren't even negotiating with him. They're negotiating with Eubank because they know Hearn has the financial backing to put on a big fight. Warren doesn't. It's not about the belts, it's about the money.

I love how everyone here is telling BJS what he should accept for fighting GGG.

He said he wants to fight GGG - I personally don't think he does right now - But get an offer on the table that he can't refuse. Simple.

BJS has no obligation to fight GGG, and especially not for less than what he feels he's worth.

His fans feel everyone else should sacrifice to help GGG accomplish his goals. Saw people on here suggesting Jacobs put his career on hold until the WBC decides what will happen between GGG and Canelo and the WBA calls the mandatory. Well they didn't call the mandatory and neither fighter is asking the WBA to call it or pushing for the fight. One is talking about a rematch with Mora and the other is talking about a match with Eubank.

The only thing BJS has is that belt. He doesn't sell well. Warren had to postpone the Lee fight twice and move the venue because of bad ticket sells. Without that belt he's not worth much. BJS wants to be compensated well and I don't blame him. I think $2 mil is a good starting point. It's the last belt GGG wants so it's going to come at a higher price than the IBF belt.

[kiaba360]

Yep, real **** move. Now they aren't even negotiating with him. They're negotiating with Eubank because they know Hearn has the financial backing to put on a big fight. Warren doesn't. It's not about the belts, it's about the money.

It's about both, as Eubank is ranked WBA #2. KO'ing Eubank now means not having to do it later when he's become a better fighter, and if GGG absolutely trashes him, it'll look bad for BJS to come and fight Eubank soon after, therefore eliminating one of BJS's escape routes. If what you say about BJS/Lee is true , then BJS won't be able to feast on mandatories like other popular fighters have. He's only 26, so he (and Canelo ftm) will simply try to outlast GGG, but how long will that strategy be viable?

[Motorcity Cobra]

It's about both, as Eubank is ranked WBA #2. KO'ing Eubank now means not having to do it later when he's become a better fighter, and if GGG absolutely trashes him, it'll look bad for BJS to come and fight Eubank soon after, therefore eliminating one of BJS's escape routes. If what you say about BJS/Lee is true , then BJS won't be able to feast on mandatories like other popular fighters have. He's only 26, so he (and Canelo ftm) will simply try to outlast GGG, but how long will that strategy be viable?

I don't see Saunders having much of a career without GGG, Jacobs, Canelo, or Eubank. He's already had one fight canceled because of injury (that's the excuse they use when fights aren't selling well) and the Lee fight had to be postponed twice and moved. Nobody talks about BJS unless Eubank Jr or GGG's name is brought up. A couple of weeks back he said he has a very big possible fight for September. I doubt it's GGG or Eubank since they seem to be fighting each other. Not sure what Canelo is doing. Jacobs just pushed his fight back to September so maybe it's him. I don't understand what's going on with him. I hope it's not Andy Lee again.

[aboutfkntime]

Yeah for sure that fight pissed me off and the rematch wasn't much better , I just wanted to list how he got to where was. Hopkins had to beat 2 first ballots and went in a underdog against Tito, GGG had 2 handed to him and a 3rd against a guy with no significant wins who won it as a vacant where it was like the #7 & #10 guys going at it for the strap in basically the weakest sanctioning body as far as rankings go in a sh.it division like you can't even compare their runs

It's like one guy climbed Everest solo with no oxygen & no help and another guy got to piggyback on the Sherpas back fully equipped and hopped off when he got to the peak. They both did the same thing but not really

good post, as was your earlier comment

At the end of the day a fighter should/will be judged by the names on his resume, and nothing else.

Who, with consideration given to when/how, is the ONLY qualifying criteria for greatness.

That way all fighters are judged equally, regardless of era, etc..... comparing apples with apples is the only way to be accurate/fair.

The number of divisions he represented, the number of lineal titles he won, the number of ESPY's he won..... all that stuff is largely irrelevant.

Pep fought in 1 division, won 0 lineal titles, and won 0 espy's.

Guys who fight in multiple divisions will likely have more opportunities, so will likely rise to the top through achievement, but who with consideration given to when/how is a level playing-field.

Pep fought in a very good era, for a very long time.

[aboutfkntime]

I think he will move up eventually but who knows..

He can stay at 160 as far as I'm concerned.

A lot of great fighters only ever fought in 1 division.

Golovkin is not great, just saying.....

But he will likely have more opportunities if he moves up.

[aboutfkntime]

I love how everyone here is telling BJS what he should accept for fighting GGG.

He said he wants to fight GGG - I personally don't think he does right now - But get an offer on the table that he can't refuse. Simple.

BJS has no obligation to fight GGG, and especially not for less than what he feels he's worth.

GREAT post !

Couldn't have said it better.

These fans who think that Saunders/Canelo/Jacobs/etc should feel somehow compelled to do Golovkin favors, to fit in with his schedule, and to happily accept all of Golovkin's terms, are..... " special ".

When has boxing ever worked like that ?

[aboutfkntime]

All that would be well and good, if BJS tries to compensate for not making one of the notable MW match-ups possible. If he fights Canelo/Jacobs/Eubank/Lee rematch/Lemieux, then I can accept him not facing GGG. If he's only facing mandatories and/or only fighting twice a year (which seems part and parcel of this current era), then he might as well fight GGG and get blitzed like Geale did.

Exactly like this rubbish here LMAO

So, Saunders should somehow feel compelled to fit in with Golovkin's schedule, and happily accept all of his terms, just because you want Golovkin to get his hands on Saunders title.

wow

[aboutfkntime]

Yep, real **** move. Now they aren't even negotiating with him. They're negotiating with Eubank because they know Hearn has the financial backing to put on a big fight. Warren doesn't. It's not about the belts, it's about the money.



His fans feel everyone else should sacrifice to help GGG accomplish his goals. Saw people on here suggesting Jacobs put his career on hold until the WBC decides what will happen between GGG and Canelo and the WBA calls the mandatory. Well they didn't call the mandatory and neither fighter is asking the WBA to call it or pushing for the fight. One is talking about a rematch with Mora and the other is talking about a match with Eubank.

The only thing BJS has is that belt. He doesn't sell well. Warren had to postpone the Lee fight twice and move the venue because of bad ticket sells. Without that belt he's not worth much. BJS wants to be compensated well and I don't blame him. I think $2 mil is a good starting point. It's the last belt GGG wants so it's going to come at a higher price than the IBF belt.

WTF is up with that ******ED **** ?

ludicrous !