Comments Thread For: Warren: Golovkin-Saunders Possible - If Billy Joe is Properly Paid

[aboutfkntime]

That's still not the point, and businesses don't rely on just one transaction. Let's not forget, we're talking about the final belt to unify. What you're suggesting is what perhaps a cheap promoter would justify. It's ridiculous if you think the focus is on one particular fight. The road for Golovkin is 168. If he unifies all the belts, how do you think he comes in with negotiations at a new weight? 4 million perhaps K2 just doesn't have... or Loeffler is just scared and cheap to bet!

It's common to bet small when you're worried about winning.

You know EXACTLY whats up, good posting !

[aboutfkntime]

Why did Tom Loeffler allow that lie to float out there about offering BJS $4 mil when the offer was $1 mil? That made BJS look like he was ducking. This is the last belt so of course it's going to cost more the the IBF. I think $2.5 mil is a fair offer. Saunders needs to do something and stop hiding that belt. He's taken it hostage since he won it.

They have been pulling those stunts for FOUR YEARS !

That way they can build up Golovkin's " rep " for free, at NO risk.

They allowed all those lies to float about Andre Ward as well, until Ward approached Loeffler at the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight and told him to stop lying to the fans...... then suddenly, out comes a statement from Loeffler, publicly confirming that Ward did not duck lil'G LMAO

[Derranged]

4 million seems reasonable to get the LAST and only belt to claim legacy. Isn't this the main goal before Lil'G hits 40? Get it over with. Bring it to the UK too

That's not insane. That's basic common sense. That's the whole concept of getting loans or business loans. The objective is to surpass the capital you're requesting. With Lil'G having 4 belts, doesn't the stock technically rise? It's basic common sense. Future fights would surpass anything crying about 4million.

However, you want the real truth? Loeffler is content even without the WBO for now, and it's safe to say that they wouldn't mind seeing Saunders defend that WBO. A shock loss, then they can give the new WBO challenger 1 mill or less. Saunders is the Champ, he can price himself as he pleases, he doesn't work for K2 or their future earning goals. Boxing is Business, no favors done!

at Saunders getting 4 million. Neither of them are getting that much.

[Shadoww702]

What do you mean Leoffler refuses to go above? Do you actually think the promoters are paying opponents out of pocket?! The money is paid by whatever network puts up the money, obviously in this case HBO. They surely can get some additional money in the UK. But if you think they are going to come up with $4 million for Saunders, a guy who isn't even popular in the UK, you're out of your mind. HBO doesn't pay that kind of cash to anyone. Golovkin's highest payday to date is $2 million so how is Saunders going to get double that?

??? The promotor does pay the fighters purses and expenses associated with fight. The PROFIT cones from revenue sales of tickets, TELEVISION rights, merchandising, and sponsorship?

K2 would get ALL rights to the bout but has to negotiate with Saunders asking price of $4 million and work it down.

It would probably make upwards of $10+ million. Ggg does sale out arenas, brings sponsors, and sets decent viewing numbers for HBO. Granted the profit margin isn't that high. And there is a potential to lose money.

BUT GGG would have ALL 4 belts and that will just build his brand more. It would be unheard of!!!

Is it truly about the belts and legends??? Or $$$$.

[Shadoww702]

Don't forget Loeffler was flat out asked how much they offered Saunders and he said "life changing money". He was also point blank asked if it was $4 million and he joked and said he couldn't give exact figures but the writer of the article came away believing it was that much and why EVERYONE said Saunders DUCKED. We all know now he was not offered even close to that....That was kind of a dic move on Loeffler

[Shadoww702]

And FK NO! I think Saunders is a C fighter and isn't worth even close to $4 million. I even think $1.5 is too much.

By its like collectibles be it baseball cards, sports cars, etc.. Your collection looks like crap when your missing one piece and MOST always over pay to complete the said collection..

[ИATAS]

??? The promotor does pay the fighters purses and expenses associated with fight. The PROFIT cones from revenue sales of tickets, TELEVISION rights, merchandising, and sponsorship?

K2 would get ALL rights to the bout but has to negotiate with Saunders asking price of $4 million and work it down.

It would probably make upwards of $10+ million. Ggg does sale out arenas, brings sponsors, and sets decent viewing numbers for HBO. Granted the profit margin isn't that high. And there is a potential to lose money.

BUT GGG would have ALL 4 belts and that will just build his brand more. It would be unheard of!!!

Is it truly about the belts and legends??? Or $$$$.

You have no idea what you're talking about! Promoters don't pay out of pocket. They get deals with HBO for example who say they will pay X amount of money for the purse. The promoter gets that money, pays their fighters after the fight. Leoffler isn't the one paying Saunders $4 million.

I don't know where you get these numbers from. Golovkin sells out arenas of course, but unless it's on PPV, where is all this extra millions of dollars coming from?? If his biggest purse to date is $2 million, how the hell are they going to get Saunders $4 million and pay Golovkin? Upwards of $10 million, where, how?? Sponsors? Setting "decent numbers on HBO" doesn't get you extra money, that's not how it works. It wouldn't matter if 1.5 million people watched or 800,000, the purses are set. Unless of course it's on PPV, which we obviously know it won't be since it's Billy Joe Saunders, whom no one in America knows. They could have it on PPV in the UK, the problem is Saunders is barely known in the UK himself. He's not a star, not a big name, not a draw. Maybe the UK fans would pay to see Golovkin on PPV? I don't think Golovkin is a draw in the UK, not against Saunders. It would have to be some UK fighter with an actual name (Froch, DeGale perhaps, Groves maybe, etc). Saunders unfortunately isn't one of those guys.

If Saunders is seriously asking for $4 million, he's clearly pricing himself out. He'll then fight some scrub for $750,000 instead. So figure it out. Why would Saunders pass on, say $2 million, for a big time unification bout, for some no name name for a fraction of the cost? Right.

[Metho_4u]

BJS will probably **** around and lose to someone else for much less than $4M. He sc****d by Lee and Eubank, but I don't think he's good enough to avoid a loss against some top 20-30 MW. GGG should just face Eubank (or Groves/Murray winner) in the UK and test out his drawing power. At some point, the WBO belt will wind up in the hands of a fighter who isn't as cowardly as Saunders. Hell, one of the top LMWs could probably beat BJS.

Why don't you think GayLoveKin doesn't move up, fight someone like Abraham? He's got a good record, pretty straight ahead fighter, he's a good puncher, but it could be a good testing the waters fight. Ramirez had been mentioned, but I personally think he would give little g a world of problems, if not beat him convincingly

[Lester Tutor]

lol you're such a joke of a poster. Who the hell is going to pay $4 million to Saunders? That would only work if Golovkin fought for free but of course Golovkin needs to get paid too. So at best, what is it going to be, 50/50 purse split which in itself is laughable but for argument sake lets say 50/50, so that means $8 million, at least, just for the main event. For Billy Joe Saunders?! HBO isn't going to pay that on a regular budget and it's not going to PPV. Saunders isn't even popular in the UK. They can fight in the UK and it won't magically get them $8 million minimum for the purse, since Saunders is barely known.

What an idiotic post. lmao @ basic & common sense $4m for Billy freakin Saunders

Why do Lil'G fans still don't understand basic investment practices? They focus on just one fight. In Europe you call that "horse eyes" meaning only looking in one direction...

Lil'G having ALL THE BELTS is not the priority!? Isn't that what all you girls have been complaining about for the last 2 years, to UNIFY? Just get it over with and pay Saunders and move to 168 where Lil'G has yet to be a two division champ. All this theory is just ****** when Loeffler is just too cheap to fork proper money.

Lil'G has HBO, Apple, Samsung, Jordan... financial backing! lol

either Lil'G fans are cheap as well and protect cheap promoters or they don't have an idea on how real men spend money intelligently, especially when having proper investments. The almighty 160 bulldozer "nobody can beat him" but we'll just coast at 160 because getting all the belts is not a priority and ohhh "4 million is too much"... "the UK doesn't know anything about money"...

Mayweather had made triple digit millions and you guys complain why Lil'G and Mayweather don't belong in the same conversations.

Please girls... save the embarrassment and write Loeffler a blank fan letter since nothing registers in your heads. IN the trunk you go!

[Lester Tutor]

at Saunders getting 4 million. Neither of them are getting that much.

I know it's hilarious! Let's just wait another 2 years casually to unify! Maybe at 168 Lil'G can make 10 digit figures but never triple digit like Money May!

Lil'G = HBO, Apple, Samsung, Jordan ... $$$$$$$$

TMT = No Endorsements. $

1+1=2.