Comments Thread For: Fonfara-Smith PBC on NBC Sees Increase With 1.32M Rating

[Lester Tutor]

Ah the casual PBC NSB haters. They complain about free boxing and compare it to regular soaps or other things going acting like everybody's following boxing. Fugg outta here... Go watch golf and be banned for good. Yall can go another website. Bet these fools dont even own HBO yet they root for it. Lol.

[bigdunny1]

lol. how did you make the leap from finding out that the live gate for Garcia-Guerrero was just under $510,000 to then arguing that that would mean that 5,000 tickets were sold?

according to the LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...124-story.html), tickets were priced $300-$25, with the full 18k-seat building possibly staged.

based on the breakdown of the tickets sold, a $500k gate could've gotten you anywhere from just over 1650 tickets to 20,000 tickets sold.

would love to see how you did your own deduction.

The ticket prices are exactly what UFC prices for non ppv and when they sell 10k tickets they gross 1mil in live gates so how the phuk you gross half the amount and have attendance of 12k? They sold around 5k tickets. Look up comps in boxing and ufc. Ggg grossed 2m in his fight with lemieux and that's with 20k in attendance with comparable ticket prices. Again the numbers don't add up from the attendance and it's why ggg announced their live gate and why ufc as a routine announce their live gate because they actually sell tickets not just give away half of the tickets for free. For the Garcia fight numerous outlets reported that they were giving away free tickets in hotels, barbershops, and at the arena which has been an on going theme for pbc events.

[Motorcity Cobra]

The ticket prices are exactly what UFC prices for non ppv and when they sell 10k tickets they gross 1mil in live gates so how the phuk you gross half the amount and have attendance of 12k? They sold around 5k tickets. Look up comps in boxing and ufc. Ggg grossed 2m in his fight with lemieux and that's with 20k in attendance with comparable ticket prices. Again the numbers don't add up from the attendance and it's why ggg announced their live gate and why ufc as a routine announce their live gate because they actually sell tickets not just give away half of the tickets for free. For the Garcia fight numerous outlets reported that they were giving away free tickets in hotels, barbershops, and at the arena which has been an on going theme for pbc events.

Serious question. Why do your hate PBC? Do you want it to fail?

[bigdunny1]

Tickets were 25 for upper balcony, 50 for lower balcony, 100, for upper lower level, 150 lower level and 300 for ring side. Let's say 100 is the avg ticket price if they sold 12k tickets they would of grossed a live gate of 1.2m. Instead they did 500k consistent with around 5k sold tickets. It's literally impossible to of sold much more then 5k of the 12k attendance meaning they gave somewhere 7k tickets away for free.

[bigdunny1]

Serious question. Why do your hate PBC? Do you want it to fail?

I rooted for PBC in the beginning even told tons of people at work to watch it when it debuted. But it's not the product we were promised and pointing out obvious reasons why it's failing and losing money is not rooting for it to fail but merely using common sense.

[LoadedWraps]

My main problem with PBC is that its just too much change too fast. We knew to look for boxing on Fridays on ESPN and Saturdays on HBO and Showtime for a decade man. All of a sudden theres no fights on ESPN fridays, Showtimes goes silent for six months, and there's random ass cards on Spike, NBC, CBS, ESPN on random weekdays or worse weekend afternoons. Who has time to keep up with this shit?

I agree with much of what you said here.

I support PBC, and am of the train of thought that all boxing is better for boxing and support Al Haymon, but it definitely is too much too soon.

So many channels, so many channels I don't have, and odd times and dates.

The only one I am familiar with with some kind of regularity is "toe to toe tuesdays".

[Motorcity Cobra]

I rooted for PBC in the beginning even told tons of people at work to watch it when it debuted. But it's not the product we were promised and pointing out obvious reasons why it's failing and losing money is not rooting for it to fail but merely using common sense.

What product were you expecting?

[Tago Nang Tago]

What product were you expecting?

a product that isn't ran by a black person (not my thinking, but his from the sounds of it)

[killakali]

uhhh what dates have they cut back on? sorry but of course some channels are going to have cards where we dont know people as much and why is that bad? he has so many cards so many fighters its impossible for every single card to be name fighters if that were case it be 2 cards a month tops. u guys try way way way way too hard trying to bash pbc and all the bs info u guys get are from boxing writers on twitter who are paid to bash and spread misinformation about pbc

nbc, spike, bounce and cbs have all cut back the amount of cards from last year. just do the math. easy to do and then you can also read about the purses and see how much less is being paid by the non showtime cards

[bigdunny1]

What product were you expecting?

PBC was supposed to fix the problems in boxing and create a UFC like league for boxing where the best fight the best and putting on meaningful top fights on free tv. This weekend we got fonfara vs smith for Christ sake does that sound like the mission statement we were sold? Look at the cards on ESPN. The last FOX card was berto and Ortiz two washed up fighters. Haymon has the deepest stable in boxing yet rarely are any of the top fighters facing each other. He had the fighters, the networks, the money, and no politics preventing him from making PBC whatever he wanted. And he squandered it. Based on the resources and fighters he had there is no other way to describe the product we ended up getting as anything but disappointing.