Comments Thread For: Fonfara-Smith PBC on NBC Sees Increase With 1.32M Rating

[Scipio2009]

So what was the avg ticket price sold? Don't dodge the question. I already showed you links and reports of PBC hiring a audience casting agency. You use that when you looking to fill mass amount of seats totally consistent with the attendance figure that is bogus based on such a low live gate.

Over 3000 tickets at $25/$50, 350-450 tickets sold at $300, with the $100 and $150 tickets looked at accordingly. At $300/$150/$100/$50/$25 and more folks on the back end, I'm fairly certain that the avg ticket price was below $100.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Here is a screen shot the website. Still need more proof? LMAO


https://mobile.twitter.com/steveucnl...49153428295680

How about this one?

https://m.reddit.com/r/Boxing/commen..._casting_firm/

i know that this is true, as i received an email from 1iota last wednesday asking if i wanted to go to the show. text of the email:

"Hey [redacted]!

This Friday night, 1iota is proud to be able to bring you to one of the Southland's most exciting sporting events. Premier Boxing Champions, presented by SPIKE, will be at the Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario, CA and YOU can be there for FREE! 1iota will be bringing a very special group of SUPER FANS down on the floor to surround these Champions as they make their entrances, and then hit the seats for the main events! It's going to be awesome, and you can be a part of it all! Just go to 1iota.com to get your free tickets NOW."

edit: here's a screenshot from the email - http://i.imgur.com/Yl0eyQA.png

They did it last year when the series was first starting. They did it to make it look better on TV. Basketball and Hockey teams will take fans from the upper bowl and seat them in the lower bowl to make it look better on TV. Donald Trump did the same thing last year when he announced his run for President. Have they used them since the first couple of shows? After Kathy Duva's big announcement last year that Kovalev had resigned with HBO and he would now fight out of Vegas he hasn't fought there since his fight against Mohammadi sold 1600 tickets.They comped and gave away more tickets than they sold. He's fighting at the T-Mobile center against Ward. Which is ****** because Ward has never fought there and Kovalev flopped his last time in Vegas. And if Canelo couldn't sell out the T-mobile arena Ward and Kovalev aint gonna do it. Lomachenko vs Martinez sold under 5,000. Bradley vs Rios sold around the same. Bradley vs Pac didn't sell out the MGM Grand. Canelo vs Khan didn't sell out T-mobile and Floyd vs Berto had a higher gate. Steve Kim is a known PBC hater.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Casual fans want to see the best of the best. Max Kellerman made a great point when he was asked why PBC is failing. He said in this country we want to see the best. Said MLS is called major league soccer but we all know the best soccer players and best soccer is played over seas and mls is seen as minor league soccer that's one of the problems why people don't care about mls here. PBC is called premier boxing champions but the fans know that the premier fighters and fights are not being shown on PBC that's why they don't care. It's really mls. Casual fans know garbage when they see it. Fonfara as a main event on nbc is mls soccer.

Did Max mention why HBO is failing? If you look at his comment you'll understand.

PBC is called premier boxing champions but the fans know that the premier fighters and fights are not being shown on PBC that's why they don't care.

Boxing fans know Golovkin is the best middleweight on the planet and only 150,000 of them showed up. Boxing fans know Lomachenko is one of the best out there and less than 5,000 showed up at the arena and only 600,000 watched on TV. Yes, boxing fans do know. But there aren't enough of them to make a difference. And that's why PBC caters to the casuals instead of the hardcore boxing fans.

[Scipio2009]

You dumb azzz these are all links pointing you to either forums talking about it or offering free tickets to people on these boards and Facebook and others for past fights. No shyt if you click on the link it will bring you to a dead link the fight already past. I'm not sending you the link so you can get free tickets to a fight that already aired I pointed to the links wit people talking about pbc using this agency to give away free tickets you re tard.

I went on the 1iota site.

There is literally no mention of anything PBC on it. Maybe they got tickets to fill in certain spots on certain shows, but the appearance of things is that they got nowhere near the thousands upon thousands of free tickets to hand out that you want to insinuate.

PBC has 7 fight cards booked for the month of June.

Can you point to a single fight card this month where 1iota has a grip of tickets to give away?

Can you point to a single fight card this year where 1iota was giving away tickets?

again, this is all public information, that could be easily linked to, yet you've only got insinuations.

[Scipio2009]

Here is a screen shot the website. Still need more proof? LMAO


https://mobile.twitter.com/steveucnl...49153428295680

How about this one?

https://m.reddit.com/r/Boxing/commen..._casting_firm/

i know that this is true, as i received an email from 1iota last wednesday asking if i wanted to go to the show. text of the email:

"Hey [redacted]!

This Friday night, 1iota is proud to be able to bring you to one of the Southland's most exciting sporting events. Premier Boxing Champions, presented by SPIKE, will be at the Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario, CA and YOU can be there for FREE! 1iota will be bringing a very special group of SUPER FANS down on the floor to surround these Champions as they make their entrances, and then hit the seats for the main events! It's going to be awesome, and you can be a part of it all! Just go to 1iota.com to get your free tickets NOW."

edit: here's a screenshot from the email - http://i.imgur.com/Yl0eyQA.png

lol, the last time a fight card was even held at Citizens Business Bank Arena, put on by anyone, was 15 months ago!

wtf are you talking about with that "email from last Wednesday" bull****.

Steve Kim, an open and unabashed Haymon hater, is the only person who seems to have any information that you feel confident in trying to source, lol.

you played yourself

[bigdunny1]

Over 3000 tickets at $25/$50, 350-450 tickets sold at $300, with the $100 and $150 tickets looked at accordingly. At $300/$150/$100/$50/$25 and more folks on the back end, I'm fairly certain that the avg ticket price was below $100.

$37 x 3000 = 111k
$300 x 400 = 120k

That's 3400 tickets at 231k.
$125 x 2150 = 269k

So even by your own ****** inflated numbers that's only 5550 tickets sold. 500 more then my estimate. LMAO
I'm glad we both agree now that they didn't sell half the tickets of their attendance since the math proves that is impossible based on the ticket prices.

[Scipio2009]

Here is a screen shot the website. Still need more proof? LMAO


https://mobile.twitter.com/steveucnl...49153428295680

How about this one?

https://m.reddit.com/r/Boxing/commen..._casting_firm/

i know that this is true, as i received an email from 1iota last wednesday asking if i wanted to go to the show. text of the email:

"Hey [redacted]!

This Friday night, 1iota is proud to be able to bring you to one of the Southland's most exciting sporting events. Premier Boxing Champions, presented by SPIKE, will be at the Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario, CA and YOU can be there for FREE! 1iota will be bringing a very special group of SUPER FANS down on the floor to surround these Champions as they make their entrances, and then hit the seats for the main events! It's going to be awesome, and you can be a part of it all! Just go to 1iota.com to get your free tickets NOW."

edit: here's a screenshot from the email - http://i.imgur.com/Yl0eyQA.png

lol, the image was uploaded a year ago!

[Scipio2009]

$37 x 3000 = 111k
$300 x 400 = 120k

That's 3400 tickets at 231k.
$125 x 2150 = 269k

So even by your own ****** inflated numbers that's only 5550 tickets sold. 500 more then my estimate. LMAO
I'm glad we both agree now that they didn't sell half the tickets of their attendance since the math proves that is impossible based on the ticket prices.

Funny how you ignored the part about over 3000 tickets sold in the balcony, lol.

400 ringside tickets sold is my guess, I don't think that 800-1000 $150 tickets sold is outlandish, and selling 1000 $100 tickets isn't crazy either.

The live gate number was just about $510k in ticket revenue; as I've been saying, there were far more tickets sold at $50 and $25 than you want to acknowledge.

[bigdunny1]

lol, the last time a fight card was even held at Citizens Business Bank Arena, put on by anyone, was 15 months ago!

wtf are you talking about with that "email from last Wednesday" bull****.

Steve Kim, an open and unabashed Haymon hater, is the only person who seems to have any information that you feel confident in trying to source, lol.

you played yourself

So Kim posted a screen shot of the website and people posting screen shots of their emails all proving Pbc hires agencies to fill their seats. People posted the offer on this same website people you chat with here on a daily basis vouch for it. Still denying it takes place? You looking pathetic. I actually am starting to feel sorry for you because you lost this argument a long time ago and don't know when to just walk away.

[bigdunny1]

They did it last year when the series was first starting. They did it to make it look better on TV. Basketball and Hockey teams will take fans from the upper bowl and seat them in the lower bowl to make it look better on TV. Donald Trump did the same thing last year when he announced his run for President. Have they used them since the first couple of shows? After Kathy Duva's big announcement last year that Kovalev had resigned with HBO and he would now fight out of Vegas he hasn't fought there since his fight against Mohammadi sold 1600 tickets.They comped and gave away more tickets than they sold. He's fighting at the T-Mobile center against Ward. Which is ****** because Ward has never fought there and Kovalev flopped his last time in Vegas. And if Canelo couldn't sell out the T-mobile arena Ward and Kovalev aint gonna do it. Lomachenko vs Martinez sold under 5,000. Bradley vs Rios sold around the same. Bradley vs Pac didn't sell out the MGM Grand. Canelo vs Khan didn't sell out T-mobile and Floyd vs Berto had a higher gate. Steve Kim is a known PBC hater.

Kim can be a hater all he wants he told the truth about the agency. At least you admit it takes place with pbc. This idiot still in denial despite being hit over the head with proof. Yes other promoters give out a few comps they don't give away more then 50% of the attendance for free. Thats unheard of Nobody does that but haymon. And my point isn't that 5k is horrible my point is Pbc attendance figures is pure bs and manufactured. Garcia fight just a few months ago listed a attendance of 12k when they literally gave away about 7k tickets like with this same damn agency or one like it.
LA TIMES proved it by looking up the live gate (500k) impossible to sell much more then 5k tickets to generate such a low live gate.