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  • g27region
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    #31
    Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
    A reporter asked Loma if he will try to get a title at 135 before his 10th fight, something along those lines, and Loma said it wouldn't be a bad idea. Which is a dumb idea when 126 and 130 are so full with talent.
    Lomachenko wasn't even thinking of 135 at the moment until that dumb reporter put that idea in his head.
    It's always reporters asking dumb questions.
    Most of these guys truly DKSAB.
    He can get the belt at 135 and come back to 130 after that

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    • Progrssive_Jedi
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      #32
      Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
      How about let's focus on Lomachenko trying to clean up 126 and 130 first, Bob. Does that sound good?
      Let's also focus on keeping Lomachenko more active.t Does that sound good? Fighting twice a year isn't doing anything for Vasyl.
      Why are you writing Arum a letter here? Seriously, pitch this plan if yours to the team. Do they read BS?

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      • Progrssive_Jedi
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        #33
        Originally posted by tiliheels
        surely lomo is a 60-40 aside even though he doesnt bring a crowd and has terrible ratings..

        white man A side everybody knows that...

        #LomoLaws
        Which white guy was made A-side over a black guy even though the black guy did better numbers?

        I don't think I've ever seen a a-side get what they wanted because they were white.

        You sound like a ****ing hater talking like that. I'm ****ing progressive, I'm sympathetic to systemic racism, etc. I get fans tend to like whatever race of fighting that matches their own, but it cuts both ways.

        And yea, Floyd got some hate by the press a white wouldn't have--but Floyd also fed into it instead of combating it.

        But I imagine the elephant in the room here is GGG? If so I'm asking who did GGG a-side that brought in better ratings than he did?

        If it didn't happen, then you're just hating.

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        • tiliheels
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          #34
          Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
          Which white guy was made A-side over a black guy even though the black guy did better numbers?

          I don't think I've ever seen a a-side get what they wanted because they were white.

          You sound like a ****ing hater talking like that. I'm ****ing progressive, I'm sympathetic to systemic racism, etc. I get fans tend to like whatever race of fighting that matches their own, but it cuts both ways.

          And yea, Floyd got some hate by the press a white wouldn't have--but Floyd also fed into it instead of combating it.

          But I imagine the elephant in the room here is GGG? If so I'm asking who did GGG a-side that brought in better ratings than he did?

          If it didn't happen, then you're just hating.
          lomo over watlers..lol walters did 30k better in the average. lomo was still being treated like the Aside..facts..all facts..im just exposing how dead this sport can be. i will not forgive lomo until him and walters fight to see who tfr should be behind. if not he is just have a gift career. SIMPLE AS THAT..AND IF HE IS SCARED OF WALTERS GOD KNOWS HE WONT FIGHT CRAWFORD

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          • tiliheels
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            #35
            Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
            Which white guy was made A-side over a black guy even though the black guy did better numbers?

            I don't think I've ever seen a a-side get what they wanted because they were white.

            You sound like a ****ing hater talking like that. I'm ****ing progressive, I'm sympathetic to systemic racism, etc. I get fans tend to like whatever race of fighting that matches their own, but it cuts both ways.

            And yea, Floyd got some hate by the press a white wouldn't have--but Floyd also fed into it instead of combating it.

            But I imagine the elephant in the room here is GGG? If so I'm asking who did GGG a-side that brought in better ratings than he did?

            If it didn't happen, then you're just hating.
            the pool of white fighters is very small. i said lomo laws bc he is have the rules changed for him and the only difference i can see in him and rigo is the skin color bro...2 gold medals is a great way to sell lomo, but it meant nothing with rigo.

            LOOK AT THE RATINGS THO!

            but that is not my issue..my issue is the BS deal he offered both rigo and walters who are still undefeated while his best win GArry russell fights no one and never has fougth anyone.

            IT SEEMED LIKE ALL OF BOXING BACKED HIM AND IT WAS BS

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              #36
              Originally posted by g27region
              He can get the belt at 135 and come back to 130 after that
              I'm worried that Loma won't comeback down if he goes up. If he stays up there then most of the good fights that could have been made at 126/130 are gone.
              I don't know why they just can't take it step by step. Don't think too far into the future. We are in the present. We don't know what's going to happen.

              Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
              Why are you writing Arum a letter here? Seriously, pitch this plan if yours to the team. Do they read BS?
              LOL Don't take it too seriously. I doubt they read BS. I just wanted to express my thoughts. It's not like I have Bob Arum's contact information and can call him to tell him a plan lol.
              There aren't many ways fans can express their thoughts, ideas, etc.
              I doubt these promoters and managers care too much what fans have to say, so they probably don't waste their time reading boxing forums.
              Believe me, if I had contact with promoters or worked for one I probably wouldn't be on a boxing forum either.
              They just have to start doing a better job with Loma is all I'm saying. I would gladly help them do just that.
              Last edited by HI-TECH Boxing; 06-19-2016, 04:59 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by John Locke
                Lomachenko would absolutely school Crawford, no question. Loma is every bit as good, if not better than Gamboa skillwise, but without the dodgy chin. Crawford would struggle to win a round in this one.
                gamboa haw a handspeed and footspeed advantage on lomo..and he punches harder..i dont kno how u came up with this

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                • HI-TECH Boxing
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tiliheels
                  the pool of white fighters is very small. i said lomo laws bc he is have the rules changed for him and the only difference i can see in him and rigo is the skin color bro...2 gold medals is a great way to sell lomo, but it meant nothing with rigo.

                  LOOK AT THE RATINGS THO!

                  but that is not my issue..my issue is the BS deal he offered both rigo and walters who are still undefeated while his best win GArry russell fights no one and never has fougth anyone.

                  IT SEEMED LIKE ALL OF BOXING BACKED HIM AND IT WAS BS
                  I like Rigo but he's a Super Bantamweight. Smaller fighters have to impress more. They have to catch the audience attention more than bigger fighters or they have to have the right opponents. For a time Rigo had the right people in his division, but they moved up. Rigo didn't move up to chase these guys. It's not his fault that several fighters ducked him of course.
                  It's funny, people try to keep other fighters to their teams word, but seem to forget all of the things Rigo and his team used to say. Didn't they use to say Rigo could beat anyone as high as 135 and as low as 112? What happened to that?
                  Lomachenko has already moved up a division, something Rigo hasn't done, and Loma will probably move up one or two more. That's another thing, Loma is willing to take more risk and Loma is not a big guy. Yes, he's bigger than Rigo, but he's not a big Featherweight/Super Featherweight.
                  Loma has a more entertaining style than Rigo and he's actually trying to improve his style. Rigo was content with fighting the same way. He didn't have to turn into a brawler, but he wasted opportunities and didn't try to improve his style. I love Rigo's style, but you have to convince everybody else or don't complain.
                  Lomachenko doesn't live in the USA, only trains, and he's trying to learn English. His pronunciation is good, he's understanding the language more and more, the only thing he needs to do is understand it more and learn how to express himself. He may never get it 100%, but at least he's trying, unlike Rigo.
                  Rigo has lived in the USA for 7 years now. He has not even attempted to learn the language. I personally don't care if a fighter learns English, but the majority of people do.
                  So there you go, I've told you some differences between Loma and Rigo, so don't compare them. Loma surpassed Rigo in the amateurs and he will have a better pro career as well.

                  Gary Russell Jr. would beat Walters' best wins though. You may think I'm trying to overhype Russell, but I know of his potential. He's one of the more accomplished US amateurs of recent times. He would have been a medal contender at the 08' Olympics. He got a bronze medal at the 05' World Championships at just 17 (only a few months into his 17th birthday), Quaterfinalist at the 07' World Championships (losing to the eventual winner just before the medal rounds). His pro career has been a bit disappointing, but I bet he would beat Donaire and Darchinyan at Featherweight. I think Russell would have a very good chance of beating Walters as well. I would love to see that fight in the future actually. Loma had a tougher Super Featherweight opponent, for his weight debut, than Walters and he performed much better than Walters did.

                  You're always trying to act like the victim. That's one of the problems with you. What's funny though is that I've heard you say some borderline racist things on Thaboxingvoice, a show I don't listen to anymore.

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                  • tiliheels
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing
                    1. I like Rigo but he's a Super Bantamweight.
                    Smaller fighters have to impress more. They have to catch the audience attention more than bigger fighters or they have to have the right opponents. For a time Rigo had the right people in his division, but they moved up. Rigo didn't move up to chase these guys. It's not his fault that several fighters ducked him of course.
                    It's funny, people try to keep other fighters to their teams word, but seem to forget all of the things Rigo and his team used to say.
                    1. Didn't they use to say Rigo could beat anyone as high as 135 and as low as 112
                    ? What happened to that?
                    1. Lomachenko has already moved up a division,
                    something Rigo hasn't done, and Loma will probably move up one or two more. That's another thing, Loma is willing to take more risk and Loma is not a big guy. Yes, he's bigger than Rigo, but he's not a big Featherweight/Super Featherweight.
                    Loma has a more entertaining style than Rigo and he's actually trying to improve his style. Rigo was content with fighting the same way. He didn't have to turn into a brawler, but he wasted opportunities and didn't try to improve his style. I love Rigo's style, but you have to convince everybody else or don't complain.
                    Lomachenko doesn't live in the USA, only trains, and he's trying to learn English. His pronunciation is good, he's understanding the language more and more, the only thing he needs to do is understand it more and learn how to express himself. He may never get it 100%, but at least he's trying, unlike Rigo.
                    Rigo has lived in the USA for 7 years now. He has not even attempted to learn the language. I personally don't care if a fighter learns English, but the majority of people do.
                    So there you go, I've told you some differences between Loma and Rigo, so don't compare them. Loma surpassed Rigo in the amateurs and he will have a better pro career as well.

                    Gary Russell Jr. would beat Walters' best wins though. You may think I'm trying to overhype Russell, but I know of his potential. He's one of the more accomplished US amateurs of recent times. He would have been a medal contender at the 08' Olympics. He got a bronze medal at the 05' World Championships at just 17 (only a few months into his 17th birthday), Quaterfinalist at the 07' World Championships (losing to the eventual winner just before the medal rounds). His pro career has been a bit disappointing, but I bet he would beat Donaire and Darchinyan at Featherweight. I think Russell would have a very good chance of beating Walters as well. I would love to see that fight in the future actually. Loma had a tougher Super Featherweight opponent, for his weight debut, than Walters and he performed much better than Walters did.

                    You're always trying to act like the victim. That's one of the problems with you. What's funny though is that I've heard you say some borderline racist things on Thaboxingvoice, a show I don't listen to anymore.
                    1. cant use that excuse bc donaire got several fans in that same weight class and many mexican fighters prior have as well
                    2. never heard that but the boxing world was so unjust that they ddint even give him the chance to
                    3. lomo rehydrated 10 lbs from 126...rigo's highewt rehydration is to 128 i believe and he's already like 35..smaller fighters moving up at 35?? u show me where that is at..and styles dont make star or floyd would have never became one..roy would have never became one..klit would be on in germany..i can go on and on...

                    he'll have a better pro career than a lot of ppl if he keeps getting to fight the martinez of the world..hell gary russell is the man's best win, and gary hasnt done anything of note except over sleep when he probably was going to lose in the Olympics anyways

                    man nonito at 126 hurt walters several times before walters dropped him in the 3rd..nonite would smash russell..russells feet are stuck in the mud and he throws pat shots...nonito has better timing, damn good speed, and tons more power..hell the version of arce walters fought would give gary russell problems maybe....russell would have hell with both sosa and marriaga as well..that is why he didnt fight any of those type of opponents on his way up..

                    he never fought undefeated punchers like marriaga..

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Pain~Lucy
                      crawford aint waiting for loma @ 140
                      if that money is right he'll gladly wait for loma...........arum is talking some serious money with this one. A huge PPV

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