Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: Klitschko's Time May Have Passed, Fury Wins Again

[Jewish-Reptile]

I'm not a great fan of Wlad, not just his lack of style inside (and out of the ring) but his long (depressing) reign will go down in history in an era when HW Boxing universally lost respect from boxing fans.

No excitement, very few great fights, two brothers refusing to fight each other and when you look through the list of Wlads opponents, some posters on here need to rethink before they criticise certain boxers for their choice of opponent, as look at the names of Wlads opponents when he was champion, how many talented fighters did he face? Answers on a postcard.

That said, Wlad is a naturally talented boxer who could be more aggressive, he chose to box in the manner he did, so while you are right in saying his gameplan would have been the same, I believe a prime Wlad would have realised the danger he was in of losing the fight and defeated Fury.

You're wasting your time, this guy was David Haye's biggest fan until Tyson Fury beat Klitschko, now it's Fury. You see the pattern ?

[Jewish-Reptile]

The majority, if not all popular fighters, showmen, have fans that can be classed as "casual". Casual fans help create events, not just Boxing, but for all big fighting events. In many ways its a compliment to Haye that he's such a popular fighter, as the sport needs entertainers.

Imagine a roster of 15 Wlad's, robots, that may appeal to some, yet it would kill boxing, so I'm pleased we currently have a variety of boxers (styles/personalities) on the roster and you are entitled to your opinion on Haye, yet we both know Haye would be a dangerous opponent for Joshua.

Pulev? the fighter that went 12 rounds with Chisora and Thompson? Haye is on a different level to these guys and this is what some don't recognise.

The poster above (artofpugilism) summed it up well, there is a lack of depth in HW boxing and if Haye faces the Cobra or Pulev, it matters not, Haye defeats these guys.

If you match Pulev V Cobra, Pulev is clearly the better fighter, but the trouble with HW boxing is that the leading fighters are that much superior to the rest of the roster, that unless they are signed up to fight each other, all opponents are safe fights.

You're a Haye I am not, we're never going to agree, period.

As for Pulev being a different level than Haye, maybe a bigger puncher but as far as I'm concerned Pulev is the far more accomplished at heavy, I honestly believe he'd beat Haye and Joshua, possibly even Fury too if he landed one of his big shots.

[Jewish-Reptile]

"LMAO" at statements I make is mocking, it has nothing to do with small man syndrome what are you talking about?

Yes I do believe it benefits Fury...1. I've already said I think Klit should have been stopped in the first fight 2. I believe Fury will do better in this fight without the disadvantages imposed on him and the improvements made since (strength, confidence etc)

If you add those 2 beliefs together why the hell would I think it benefits Klitschko? Nothing from the first fight makes me think Klitschko will do better, taking into account everything I have mentioned as well (gloves, ring, home advantage, confidence, Fury's expected improvements)

Fury will stop him late rounds. That's my prediction. If you want to bet on a different outcome then we can do it

'Fury's expected improvements' whilst Wlad is expected to fight the same, lol. You live in a bubble man. If you believe for one moment Wlad will be phased by a crowd that boos their own man for failure to back up his claims of excitement and guarantees of ko's whilst dressed as Batman, you're mistaken, this time Fluff is gonna be wearing a diaper on the way out of the ring, after his rectum prolapses through failure to control his bowels.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Well Harold Lederman, one of the most experienced judges, agrees with me. He gave him 3 rounds and said round 1 was probably Fury's.

There's absolutely no doubt that the rounds that could have gone either way went to Klitschko as the hometown boy. If the same happens in part 2 then it's 12-0 Fury.

He gave him three but changed his mind afterwards ? You mean he agrees with your agenda, whilst the other two do not and don't deserve to be scoring fights, right ? Instead we're to acknowledge a butt hurt British fan boy desperate to see Fury credited as he's British. I'm going to enjoy reading your responses if Wlad goes on to lose to somebody like Wilder here after he he decides to fight on after July.

Bringing up Joe Louis, a fighter who fought nearly 100 years ago to justify wlad picking opponents below top 30 level, yet complain about a 6'7 undefeated american Olympian in Joshua's first defense.

the irony is strong with this one.

I'm not complaining, I'm comparing. Their is the irony.

Bitter that Wlad didn't get to Fury when he was a kid

Pathetic.

Fury was more committed and aggressive pre USS fight, had Wlad nt have been ducked in 2012 by Fury it would most certainly made a more exciting fight, are you telling me because Fury fought Chisora again in a fight which was extremly poor he was a better fighter ? Chisora was a shell by the time Fury rematches him, if you're saying getting twelve rounds against a guy who blocks punches with his face benefited him I'll have to agree with you. Or I suppose you're referring to the wins over Abell and Ammer as being great seasoning fights for his career I'd say those guys brought even less than the shell of Chisora in 2014.

But you're a Fury fan so hey ho, I'll just acknowledge those guys were great tutelage.

[LacedUp]

You were the one stating Wlad had shown decline as early as the Povetkin fight and he'd lost a step in the Pulev fight. I remember you saying it may not be enough for Fury to win but he will come out looking the best of any recent challengers in the past few years. Now you want full kudos for Fury ! I'm afraid it don't work like that, mate.

Yes. I said that and I still mean it.

That's definitely not the same as claiming someone got too old or over the hell or whatever.

The Wlad Fury fought would have still beaten Haye, Wilder, Povetkin etc.

[LacedUp]

He gave him three but changed his mind afterwards ? You mean he agrees with your agenda, whilst the other two do not and don't deserve to be scoring fights, right ? Instead we're to acknowledge a butt hurt British fan boy desperate to see Fury credited as he's British. I'm going to enjoy reading your responses if Wlad goes on to lose to somebody like Wilder here after he he decides to fight on after July.

I'm not complaining, I'm comparing. Their is the irony.

Fury was more committed and aggressive pre USS fight, had Wlad nt have been ducked in 2012 by Fury it would most certainly made a more exciting fight, are you telling me because Fury fought Chisora again in a fight which was extremly poor he was a better fighter ? Chisora was a shell by the time Fury rematches him, if you're saying getting twelve rounds against a guy who blocks punches with his face benefited him I'll have to agree with you. Or I suppose you're referring to the wins over Abell and Ammer as being great seasoning fights for his career I'd say those guys brought even less than the shell of Chisora in 2014.

But you're a Fury fan so hey ho, I'll just acknowledge those guys were great tutelage.

Yes you're right. The intelligent answer from Klitschko's biggest ballcuddler, is that it's because he's British. That's it.

You know, I didn't really think he won the fight, I don't like him, I think he's crap - But I hide it because he's British. Sometimes, would really take a long hard look at the absolutely hilarious things you have said to defend Klitschko before you call someone else a fanboy. i mean, that's just idiotic.

Lol, bitter that Wlad didn't get to fight a kid. You really are pathetic.

Fury won. He won handily. That most likely would have happened in 2012 too.

[Chuckguy]

Scott Weiland is all over vlads nutts. Dude is the vlad fan boy version of Larry xxxxxxxxxxx ha

[LoadedWraps]

Former two division world champion Paulie Malignaggi, who works as an expert analyst for Showtime, expects Tyson Fury (25-0, 18KOs) to send Wladimir Klitschko (64-4, 53KOs) into retirement on July 9th at the Manchester Arena.
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Nothing but the truth from Paulie "Manos de Piedra" Malignaggi.

Fury will take Wlad into deep water and drown him.

Scott Weiland is all over vlads nutts. Dude is the vlad fan boy version of Larry xxxxxxxxxxx ha

[Jewish-Reptile]

Yes. I said that and I still mean it.

That's definitely not the same as claiming someone got too old or over the hell or whatever.

The Wlad Fury fought would have still beaten Haye, Wilder, Povetkin etc.

So the opposition is lacking as well as Wlad has aged too, I like how you're discrediting Wlad even more, that's cute, yet not clever. The punch output and general all round activity has dipped significantly since his prime years which I credit as 2009-2011.

Whether you admit it or not and we can poll this just to prove it, Wlad is not and was not the fighter he was in 2015 he was in his pomp. It's s cold hard truth, yet he's still good enough to beat Fury, if he can draw upon the willingness to roll bak the years. If not and he goes out on another limp abject points loss we'll know why he was so eager to face Fury three years previously, as he could feel himself the winters having begun to catch up with him.

If its another loss I'll accept it for what it is, him fighting on and taking on the more challenging challengers too late in his career, ok it detracts from Fury but that shouldn't be looked upon as his win being any less than what was a great accomplishment for himself in managing to wrestle the titles from a champion still deemed invincible by many and more. In some ways I'll always respect Fury for the manner in which he dug his heels in and managed to go 12 with Wlad, it takes a talented fighter to go 12 with the boss.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Yes you're right. The intelligent answer from Klitschko's biggest ballcuddler, is that it's because he's British. That's it.

You know, I didn't really think he won the fight, I don't like him, I think he's crap - But I hide it because he's British. Sometimes, would really take a long hard look at the absolutely hilarious things you have said to defend Klitschko before you call someone else a fanboy. i mean, that's just idiotic.

Lol, bitter that Wlad didn't get to fight a kid. You really are pathetic.

Fury won. He won handily. That most likely would have happened in 2012 too.

You're agenda is transparent, wherever a British boxer is being discussed you're in the thread acting the very same way in which you accuse me of acting, a fan boy, only I'm not hung up on anyone particular race, religion or nationality. You're a patriot and a nationalist I respect that, I just don't agree with the ways in which you contradict and embarass yourself on a daily basis in here, but then again it is no concern of mine how you wish to be viewed upon here. Me personally I wouldn't want the reputation you have, but that's cool, if I ever want a blow job when I'm in the UK I'll make sure to bring a pair of boxing shorts with a Union Jack on and call myself a cool sounding deceiving name like Neville Churchill. Be warned if you ever here a guy in the bar with that name with a James Bond accent, that in all likelihood will be me. Damn, I gave my game away.

Would you not prefer Fury taking kudos for defeating a 2012 version of Klitschko ? I'm not so sure Fury would have won, im really not. I won't gripe on, I have pretty much accepted Fury is the better man at this stage of his career.

I don't have to laugh at my own comments I have yours for that, although I do attempt to add some humour to them which at times make me giggle, I in no way find my comments as amusing as your own. Lol.