You act like 168 is full of killers....the champs there are barely better than Canelo or Jacobs level guys...Degale looked like dog**** last fight and Jack is just ok...Zurdo who knows, he's huge but very green still.... If these clowns at 160 won't fight him then I guess he should move on but I think 160 may get hot in a year or so with a Charlo,Andrade,maybe Lara....we shall see....
That's my point...if the guys @ 160 wont...I'm sure the belt holders @ 168 will n it will add to his legacy
I already explained that to that pathetic alt you rely on for support. He's of course too thick to process it, let's see if you got more mental capacity:
Hopkins recently gave an interview about that. He was presented with a big money offer to fight the former Sfw champ Oscar at 158. There was no mando, the midget wbo paper champ didn't have to fight the man, he just wanted to. Nard didnt like the CW, tried to bargain for 159, 158.5. They wouldn't budge so he relented cause the money was too good, and the guy is a midget anyway.
Challenge: how many differences can you spot here vs GGG Canelo?
Sorry I don't do alts...only trolls n guys who have a weak argument have alts.
Sorry I don't do alts...only trolls n guys who have a weak argument have alts.
No, the guy you were quoting. That's probably not you, its a pathetic alt factory called Nay Sayer. He made a bad, discreted point and of course you were impressed.
Back to the point, so how many differences can you spot there?
yea...floyd is the only fighter i talk about on this thread...you fools bring him up more than his own fans..the man is retired.
just a bunch of salty 48ers
I like Manny....just never thought he was the best of this generation(he wasnt) and never thought he had the tools to beat floyd(he doesnt and lost to the man). I always went in depth why. I never been a "he dominates him, end thread" type poster.
if that makes me a fan boy, so be it.....too many emotionally invested fan boys got their hearts broken and im the bad guy...oh well..i'll be that if it makes you feel better
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He was an unknown fighter when Martinez was champ and thats when all the he ducking stuff started
its partially his teams fault for not finding him better opposition just like everyone else.
ok....lets eliminate Canelo, Jacobs, Cotto is not in the picture, Saunders, and Honestly i think eubank is too green and needs a win over a lemmie or Lee type before stepping up to GGG
154-168 is a weight range where guys usually meet each other weather they were a division a part for some time.
GGG has the strength and power to move up
That leaves guys like Degale, Jack, Zurda, he can fight the guy he was supposed to fight before Wade got the call, Lara is a better fighter and has a higher profile than guys he's fought lately, Hassan N'Dam has heart is fun to watch and he isnt known to duck anyone, Andy lee is still a top ten middleweight, a pro rematch with dirrell would be interesting contrast of styles, the guy has options
his team just want to go about moving him a certain way...thats fine but im tired of the excuses
I've been a boxing fan my whole life and this "most feared " crap tag has been thrown on fighters and most time its fighters who havent fought anyone worth a damn, meaning elite fighters.
Fighters are judged by who they fight
you dont get credit for fights that dont happen and both sides have to take some responsibility
Quote by elgu 168 isn't an option unless you really want to see him lose. Look at the guys frame and weight before you say such nonsense. And you don't fool me saying you're a boxing fan. You're biased to certain fighters particularly those of African American descent. It's written all over your biased posts and the fact that you can't see how GGG is better than Matthysse.
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Originally Posted by elgu View Post 168 isn't an option unless you really want to see him lose. Look at the guys frame and weight before you say such nonsense. And you don't fool me saying you're a boxing fan. You're biased to certain fighters particularly those of African American descent. It's written all over your biased posts and the fact that you can't see how GGG is better than Matthysse.
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bro...are you serious...he is supposed to be a monster right? he is a beast right? if you cant find better opposition, move up or alter how you negotiate.
Lil azz Vinny Paz fought from 135-168 and didnt have near the talent GGG does man....he only won titles at 135 and 154 and was dwarfed but didnt give AF
there have been far smaller less skilled fighters who attempted a move up...Sounds like you want to protect your hero
Garcia moved up, Khan started at lightweight and fought Canelo this year and hardly did much at 147...come on man...nobody is asking him to do anything we dont expect out of other fighters which is take a risk
you mean to tell me a MFer who comes in over 168 and 170 and is 5'10" is too small for 168? get real
Im gonna expose you...Just like its a bunch of posters on here that wont admit it, but I know what the business is....
Maybe its not me wanting to see him lose, maybe you dont mind him fighting the level of oppnents he has because you want to see him keep knocking out no names and DONT WANT TO SEE HIM LOSE.
what is it with you idiots talking about race?
is danny garcia african american? I gave him props and made a thread about him
in the Ward vs Kov thread, I said i like both and have followed kovalev since 2013 when he had a great year
you posters try to deflect how you think and feel on other people.
If you like GGG because he isnt black...thats your perogative, dont accuse of BS like that when you dont have proof
you just dont like I dont pump up a fighter you like, get over it.
greater fighters get criticized all the time of all races. Stop being an oversensitive fan boy...you just told on yourself....good job
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Danny Garcia is a Haymon brother so he is alright to you guys. You're pumping Kovalev so that you can say how it is a monstrous win for Ward if he wins(which he wont, and he wont even honor his contract to fight him in 2016). I see through your ruses and your racism buddy.
As for the thread GGG started at 140 and his frame isn't for 168 no matter how you want to spin it. If you had as much sense of boxing as you claim you would see that GGG>>>>Matthysse. I'm done with you. I know a fanboy when I see one and you sir have been spotted.
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IDGAF about Haymon, Arum, hbo vs showtime or any of the outside of the ring crap. I dont even get involved in those conversations...look it up...stop spewing bs
I dont care who wins, ward vs kov....you just told on yourself "he wont honor the contract" are you a boxing fan? do you hope the fight doesnt happen because its a chance kov wont win? what is it with you soft so called fans that complain about who say stuff like that?
you got me confused with some other poster...bro...be a man and just admit your agenda and move on
GGG is a good fighter...does he have a great resume? no
has he beat an elite opponent? no
those are the facts...deal with it ...has nothing to do with race....it does for you and its cool...you assume because Im a person of color that I dont like fighters of european descent? Maybe its because you dont like that boxing is dominated by people of color and it rubs you the wrong way....not my proble,
get over it.....the same hype he has now is the same hype Matthyssee had before he lost to Garcia....and guess what, he actually has fought elite fighters and GGG has not
you know how good fighters are based off their level of opposition, the eye test can only tell you so much against a certain level of opposition
you can call me whatever you want....like I said you are deflecting because you illustrated exactly what it means to be a fan boy....getting upset when someone doesn't agree with you, deflect and accuse a poster of things you do in actuality, and dont expect the fighter you like to do things that you expect others to do in their, career, which is take a friggin risk
the horse is dead and tired...."they ducking doe".....its disrespectful to other fighters who want to fight him and those who tried....these are professionals, this dude is 35....time to step up already. excuses are for losers and for fighters who aint fought no one elite
No, you're insinuating this is a race bait thread by your question. I am just criticizing your choice of pictures representing yourself or your usual habits in posting in race bait threads along with posters in the pre 2010 registrations...
dat groupie trend innit.
Guy, have you ever actually read any of my posts? Have a read through, have I ever denigrated a black fighter? I'm a huge fan of boxing and I absolutely detest racism being from a mixed heritage (neither British) and growing up in a predominantly white town in the UK. The only reason you're accusing me of being racist is because I'm a fan of watching Golovkin , a white fighter, do you see how incredibly over sensitive and immature that makes you look?
There are bigoted idiots like freedom on here but as far as I'm concerned, you're just as bad as him.
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