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The Truth Is, Alvarez will neutralize that "Jab!" from Golovkin
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostNeither was top 10, noncontenders. Angulo has been shot ever since he came out of detention, see his struggle vs bum Silva. The only time he looked good since was vs Lara and he quit there, which is not a good sign for a face first Mexican brawler. Kirkland was just a non factor.
You have a lot of bs qualifiers to avoid saying OK canelo has a good beard never been hurt. Meanwhile I don't see the same qualifiers for ggg who has faced bums like wade and Monroe and dozens of plumbers and cab drivers but that doesn't discount his chin?Last edited by bigdunny1; 06-18-2016, 01:13 AM.
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Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View PostWhat is Lil'G's strategy against Alvarez? Do people ever talk about a gameplan?
Doug Fischer said these two goons went at it in sparring and was impressed by both, this was even before Alvarez fought Mayweather. The kid has accelerated since, and Golovkin isn't getting any older...
Alvarez flicked off Khan's jabs literally. Alvarez is known for tilting back / reflexes on jabs. Alvarez is faster than Golovkin. How is Abel going to train Golovkin in preparing with counter attacks? Stevens has played with both, and Stevens states Alvarez can beat him. Do we assume Alvarez will receive the same range shots landed on Stevens or as durable or even the same ring IQ?
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostSo he was shot but looked great and almost knocked out lara and was clearly winning the fight before a severe freak eye injury? Kirkland was a top 10 ranked fighter UNTIL he lost his ranking because he didn't fight over a year. He was coming off his best wins and if he doesn't fight over money and just faces 1 bum fringe contender to stay active has a top 10 ranking when he fights canelo.
You have a lot of bs qualifiers to avoid saying OK canelo has a good beard never been hurt. Meanwhile I don't see the same qualifiers for ggg who has faced bums like wade and Monroe and dozens of plumbers and cab drivers but that doesn't discount his chin?
Kirkland had 2 fights in 3.5 years, getting outclassed by Molina till the bogus Dq, and Tapia who as it turns out is a punching bag
Ggg face some good punchers at Mw, more relevant than those 2 at the time. He also wasn't deterred and walked down at times by a guy 15lbs smaller. As great as Floyd is, much smaller cruder guys walked through his punches way better than Canelo. Guerrero was less bothered lol
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostHe didn't even look great vs Lara just kept pressing, and Lara doesnt deal with pressure that well. But he looked shot vs Silva, Canelo, Dela Rosa, and the quit job didn't help.
Kirkland had 2 fights in 3.5 years, getting outclassed by Molina till the bogus Dq, and Tapia who as it turns out is a punching bag
Ggg face some good punchers at Mw, more relevant than those 2 at the time. He also wasn't deterred and walked down at times by a guy 15lbs smaller. As great as Floyd is, much smaller cruder guys walked through his punches way better than Canelo. Guerrero was less bothered lol
Canelo wasn't hurt by Floyd don't be ****** he was outsmarted and out boxed. Him not stalking or walking Floyd down has nothing to do with floyds power (he doesn't have much) that's more a product of canelos fighting style. He is not a mindless brawler who just walks through punches he is a counter puncher. Marquez another counter puncher got white washed by Floyd yet he has the power to hurt manny and kod him. But he never walked down Floyd because that's not his fighting style but it was very effective against a pressure fighter like manny. And many others just not floyd. But only a re tard would take that an say Floyd hits harder the manny because Marquez didn't walk Floyd down. And don't kid yourself floyd would embarrass and outbox ggg like everyone else.
Who are the great punchers Ggg has faced at middleweight? Lemieux who is the same as Kirkland and angulo already knocked out and beat twice and only got a vacant belt because 160 is trash. Geale who cotto knocked out and who you discredit as a puncher? Rubio? LMAOLast edited by bigdunny1; 06-18-2016, 01:46 AM.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostSo now he didn't look good against lara who he beat like a drum and dropped TWICE and wins if he doesn't have the eye injury? SMH And when canelo dominates him and gives him the beating of his life of course you not going to be the same when someone rearranges your face landing 300 punches and ALMOST all were power punches. He looked shot his next fight against De rosa because his corner sacraficed his career by not stopping that canelo fight 5 rounds earlier. Again no one called angulo shot until after canelo beat him stop trying to rewrite history.
Canelo wasn't hurt by Floyd don't be ****** he was outsmarted and out boxed. Him not stalking or walking Floyd down has nothing to do with floyds power (he doesn't have much) that's more a product of canelos fighting style. He is not a mindless brawler who just walks through punches he is a counter puncher.
Who are the great punchers Ggg has faced at middleweight? Lemieux who is the same as Kirkland and angulo already knocked out and beat twice and only got a belt because 160 is trash. Geale who cotto knocked out and who you discredit as a puncher? Rubio? LMAO
But if you're losing badly and have a 15lb advantage you should just sack up and take 2 to land one. Angulo would, before he quit at least.
Lemieux was more relevant than Kirkland, had a belt. Stevens had a Ring top 10 rating, some minor momentum, strong puncher. Chased after fights with big punching Froch, Quillin, no lack of confidence there
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostKirkland was a way more punishing loss for Angulo. A lot of people thought he was shot before Lara, and after there were lingering questions over his quit job of course. And sure enough looks like **** from first minute vs Canelo and then just hopeless vs Dela Rosa.
But if you're losing badly and have a 15lb advantage you should just sack up and take 2 to land one. Angulo would, before he quit at least.
Lemieux was more relevant than Kirkland, had a belt. Stevens had a Ring top 10 rating, some minor momentum, strong puncher. Chased after fights with big punching Froch, Quillin, no lack of confidence there
Again so Marquez losing badly did not walk down Floyd either these are counter punchers not stalking brawlers has nothing to do with not having heart or Floyd having too much punch power. like are you a boxing newbie or something? Floyd is a great fighter nobody beats him whether you are a counter puncher or a brawler and he toys and embarrasses GGG like the rest. Why you bringing up Floyd when we talking about canelo chin is idiotic Floyd never hurt canelo once just out boxed him.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostWas Lemieux shot because he was dominated in the first minute by ggg? And he had already been kod and suffered back to back losses against mediocre fighters so he must of been shot. Lemieux won a vacant belt he was a paper champ in a garbage weight class. Stevens? Hahahaha
Again so Marquez losing badly did not walk down Floyd either these are counter punchers not stalking brawlers has nothing to do with not having heart or Floyd having too much punch power. like are you a boxing newbie or something? Floyd is a great fighter nobody beats him whether you are a counter puncher or a brawler and he toys and embarrasses GGG like the rest. Why you bringing up Floyd when we talking about canelo chin is idiotic Floyd never hurt canelo once just out boxed him.
Cmon man, Marquez?! The guy that was getting pushed around at 135 by chubby Juan Diaz? Where's the 15lb advantage for Floyds opponent there? A Mexican hero can't just be outboxed to a shutout by a guy that much smaller, at some point you gotta trust your chin and go for broke. Not saying hes Khan chinwise, but Margarito he aint
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostAngulo looked like he was underwater, pulling punches all night. Lemieux had some momentum prior, he was just outclassed but still dangerous for the rest. Stevens Ktfos Angulo, Kirkland now and then.
Cmon man, Marquez?! The guy that was getting pushed around at 135 by chubby Juan Diaz? Where's the 15lb advantage for Floyds opponent there? A Mexican hero can't just be outboxed to a shutout by a guy that much smaller, at some point you gotta trust your chin and go for broke. Not saying hes Khan chinwise, but Margarito he aint
If 154 was as terrible during angulo and kirkland time as 160 is they would of won vacant belts and been a paper champ like Lemieux. Instead during their time floyd, cotto, and canelo owned all the belts. These guys are all basic brawlers with no defense all at points have been top 10 ranked in their weight classes and all lose when they face better comp. The difference is when ggg faces them you wash his balls when canelo does oh they just bums. Lemieux winning a vacant belt against a fighter some didn't even have in their top 10 rankings at the time for a vacant belt in a weak division don't mean anything. And if we going purely by world champs since technically Lemieux one of the few that ggg has beat then Canelo is the god compared to ggg he has already beaten more then double the amount of world champs in his career at 25 then ggg has and he's 34.Last edited by bigdunny1; 06-18-2016, 02:44 AM.
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