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The Truth Is, Alvarez will neutralize that "Jab!" from Golovkin
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best part here forward is any explanations from K2 or Abel as to why or when they'd want Alvarez! Since Lil'G has the belts, why would they even pursue Alvarez?
This we gotta hear. Oh wait, they still need Alvarez!?
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Originally posted by stefl14 View PostThe funniest thing here is people who act as if GGG is just some no skill brawler. It just shows that very few here have boxed at a high level. I am an amateur with 84 fights who has competed for 11 years with 2 national quarter finals under my belt and let me tell you, no top amateur can't box. I have sparred with all sorts of amateurs, some considered brawlers and if need be, all of them can box at a high level once you get to the advanced stage. For example, one guy on the circuit who recently turned pro and was a fringe GB guy (and a guy I lost twice to despite stylistically being the 'boxer' between us) with a 92-14 record was considered a brawler by most of the national level guys, but let me tell you in the gym when you sparred this guy he could box as well as anybody. So imagine a few levels above that, which is what Golovkin was as an amateur. He had about 350 amateur fights and lost less than ten of them, winning an olympic silver. You don't do that without some serious boxing ability. Golovkin can box brilliantly, but he chooses his skills to go for the knockout and has adapted himself to the pro game to make him more marketable. Golovkin is is more skilled than Canelo, it's just that half of you can't see it because you think the only way to show skill is by barely throwing any punches and landing a good counter now and then. Canelo is good, but Golovkin handles him without too much trouble imo.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostMayweather did. Lara didn't barely landed anything. ran all night long. I think he had a career low in punches landed with like 100 for the entire fight. Other then Mayweather nobody has outboxed Canelo. Cotto and Khan tried and failed. Trout tried got dropped then gave up. Lara tried then started getting countered with big shots and gave up and just ran the rest of the fight. Go watch how Lara shifted to gear 5 in running after Canelo busted up his eye in the 4th. When you land only 100 punches total a entire fight you didn't give somebody hell. Lara landed exactly 55 jabs the entire fight at a connect rate of 22%. That's literally an avg of 4 jabs a round.
If GGG is going to win he is going to try and stalk and knock Canelo out and not jab or run all night long like Lara and he damn sure don't have the skill and defense to do what Floyd did.
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Canelo is very good about countering off the opponent's jab. GGG isn't Kahn-fast and I don't see his jab troubling Canelo if Cotto (who has a similar but slightly better jab) couldn't.
Both guys tend to freeze up for a moment when hit and I've long thought that this comes down to who can hurt the other first. Both rely on cumulative damage so, if they can get the other to pause (which they both do when hit) they will have the chance to take them out.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostIf you are barely throwing any punches then it should be EASY for guys to hit you then. Yet most can't do that against Canelo because his defensive skill and counterpunching. Canelo BARELY get's hit by elite fighters and makes them get on their bike or run from him for a reason. While I've seen GGG get hit a ton by bums. If he was so skilled so elusive and had this great jab he would use it and not walk into punches. That's simply not his style he's a knockout artist. Sure GGG could have success maybe win the fight by stalking, throwing combos trying to KO Canelo. Just don't tell me he's Pernell Whitaker but chooses not to show it and is going to come out and out jab canelo for 12 rounds when better jabbers tried that strategy and couldn't do it.
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I'm a big GGG fan and don't care much for the belt dumping Canelita but I know the match is going to be tight. I just believe Canelo won't be able to handle GGG in the end. They are very similar in skill level but GGG's advantage in power, stamina, chin,and endurance should get him the TKO in round 9-11. Canelo will have some success but ultimately the guy will have the ring cut down on him, and outlasted by a guy with more volume and bigger power.
Think Cotto/Margarito 1 but a much more skilled version of Margarito.
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Fun fact in their last 4 fights GGG has actually been hit more then Canelo has in his last 4 fights. GGG faced Murray, Monroe, Lemieux, Wade. While Canelo faced Lara, Kirkland, Cotto, Khan. Better competition and Canelo fought more rounds. 33 to be exact. GGG was still hit more while he fought just 27 rounds. Inferior competition less rounds but gets hit more. But people think Canelo won't lay a glove on him and even though Elite fighters barely hit Canelo GGG will do so easily and secretly has Sweet Pea like defense and jab just chooses not to use them. GGG is an easier target to hit then Canelo. GGG might beat Canelo but it won't be by moving and jabbing that's not his game or his strength. And guys who are better at that tried it and failed against Canelo.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostFun fact in their last 4 fights GGG has actually been hit more then Canelo has in his last 4 fights. GGG faced Murray, Monroe, Lemieux, Wade. While Canelo faced Lara, Kirkland, Cotto, Khan. Better competition and Canelo fought more rounds. 33 to be exact. GGG was still hit more while he fought just 27 rounds. Inferior competition less rounds but gets hit more. But people think Canelo won't lay a glove on him and even though Elite fighters barely hit Canelo GGG will do so easily and secretly has Sweet Pea like defense and jab just chooses not to use them. GGG is an easier target to hit then Canelo. GGG might beat Canelo but it won't be by moving and jabbing that's not his game or his strength. And guys who are better at that tried it and failed against Canelo.
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