The Truth Is, Alvarez will neutralize that "Jab!" from Golovkin

[Larry the boss]

Golovkin>Cotto

Based on what exactly?

[bigdunny1]

Yes he will probably neutralise the jab. With his face. You mentioned Cotto and Khan, how he countered etc but he did get hit quite a bit. Hell Alvarez has never faced any body that could hurt him with a Jab. Golovkin can. You totally ignoring the fact that Golovkin is just as dangerous on the inside as he is at a distance. In fact I would guess that 35-40% of his KOs have been because of work done to the body. I pose you guys the question what would Canelo's game plan be when he fights someone who can actually hurt him?

What are you people talking about. Did you even watch these fights. Cotto literally missed 500 punches he threw and over 300 jabs. Khan landed 48 punches TOTAL for a 6 round fight. Lara landed 55 jabs and about 100 punches the entire fight. All 3 guys literally had CAREER worse production in output and connect rate. Khan landed almost 100 punches on Garcia in a 4 round fight alone. Yet only 48 in 2 less rounds and ONLY landed 20 jabs the entire fight against Canelo at a 22% connect rate. Khan landed 46 jabs in 4 rounds at 40% rate against Danny Garcia.

People are really not giving Canelo credit on his boxing skills. Guys are literally barely hitting him seeing their normal output fall by HALF or 1/3 when they fight Canelo. Guys landing poultry amount of jabs against him both Khan and Lara missing literally almost 80% of the time they throw it. Cotto connected on 54 of 374 jabs (14%). Cotto for his career lands 45-50% of his jabs but landed just 14% yet Canelo somehow struggled with his jabs or guys that landed only a handful at 20%? His defense and specifically his upper body movement gives normally very accurate punchers and jab'ers trouble and they are worried about his counterpunches that's why their outputs are so low. The numbers prove this.

[Butt stuff]

It's amazing the forum doesn't suffer from constant water damage due to this guy's flowing tears over Golovkin. He's just some unassuming Khazak dude who boxes and likes it, get over it weirdo.

[alexguiness]

Canelo is more skilled than many give him credit for.

He has timing and power as a counter punched and sets traps very well.

For me GGG would just have the edge on pure work rate, but he would still have to work harder in the pocket than he has had to so far.

[bigdunny1]

GGG has a legit shot at winning this fight but it will be with him swarming and stalking Canelo and trying to land big shots and combos to take him out. It will not be dancing around the ring trying to out jab him. We have seen much faster, better jab'ers try this and seen canelo neutralize their jabs with head movement and pick off their shots. If it's a chess match Canelo will out box him like he's out boxed better pure boxers then GGG.

[Lester Tutor]

What are you people talking about. Did you even watch these fights. Cotto literally missed 500 punches he threw and over 300 jabs. Khan landed 48 punches TOTAL for a 6 round fight. Lara landed 55 jabs and about 100 punches the entire fight. All 3 guys literally had CAREER worse production in output and connect rate. Khan landed almost 100 punches on Garcia in a 4 round fight alone. Yet only 48 in 2 less rounds and ONLY landed 20 jabs the entire fight against Canelo at a 22% connect rate. Khan landed 46 jabs in 4 rounds at 40% rate against Danny Garcia.

People are really not giving Canelo credit on his boxing skills. Guys are literally barely hitting him seeing their normal output fall by HALF or 1/3 when they fight Canelo. Guys landing poultry amount of jabs against him both Khan and Lara missing literally almost 80% of the time they throw it. Cotto connected on 54 of 374 jabs (14%). Cotto for his career lands 45-50% of his jabs but landed just 14% yet Canelo somehow struggled with his jabs or guys that landed only a handful at 20%? His defense and specifically his upper body movement gives normally very accurate punchers and jab'ers trouble and they are worried about his counterpunches that's why their outputs are so low. The numbers prove this.

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[muslimer12]

What are you people talking about. Did you even watch these fights. Cotto literally missed 500 punches he threw and over 300 jabs. Khan landed 48 punches TOTAL for a 6 round fight. Lara landed 55 jabs and about 100 punches the entire fight. All 3 guys literally had CAREER worse production in output and connect rate. Khan landed almost 100 punches on Garcia in a 4 round fight alone. Yet only 48 in 2 less rounds and ONLY landed 20 jabs the entire fight against Canelo at a 22% connect rate. Khan landed 46 jabs in 4 rounds at 40% rate against Danny Garcia.

People are really not giving Canelo credit on his boxing skills. Guys are literally barely hitting him seeing their normal output fall by HALF or 1/3 when they fight Canelo. Guys landing poultry amount of jabs against him both Khan and Lara missing literally almost 80% of the time they throw it. Cotto connected on 54 of 374 jabs (14%). Cotto for his career lands 45-50% of his jabs but landed just 14% yet Canelo somehow struggled with his jabs or guys that landed only a handful at 20%? His defense and specifically his upper body movement gives normally very accurate punchers and jab'ers trouble and they are worried about his counterpunches that's why their outputs are so low. The numbers prove this.

The funny thing is you mention all his opponents stats but never seem to mention Canelos stats in those same fights....

Khan landed 20 jabs, cong**** Canelo landed 22 jabs. Khan also landed more head shots than canelo in those 6 rounds but he was a small WW lol and Canelo hurt him. GGG is not a small WW.

Lara only landed 107 punches and STILL outlanded Canelo in that fight. Canelo only landed 97, and over 70 of those were body punches.

His "defense" is good cuz he lacks offense. He sacrifices his offense to commit to blocking punches and therefore loses a lot of rounds cuz of inactivity. GGG KOs or TKOs Canelo, GGG is just too strong for Canelo, hes not a WW like the usual Canelo opponent.

[torosboxing75]

This is very simple. At 155 Canelo beats weight drained Zombie version of GGG. GGG's too old to drain himself down to 155. At 160 GGG beats the horse dung out of Canelo.

[bigdunny1]

The funny thing is you mention all his opponents stats but never seem to mention Canelos stats in those same fights....

Khan landed 20 jabs, cong**** Canelo landed 22 jabs. Khan also landed more head shots than canelo in those 6 rounds but he was a small WW lol and Canelo hurt him. GGG is not a small WW.

Lara only landed 107 punches and STILL outlanded Canelo in that fight. Canelo only landed 97, and over 70 of those were body punches.

His "defense" is good cuz he lacks offense. He sacrifices his offense to commit to blocking punches and therefore loses a lot of rounds cuz of inactivity. GGG KOs or TKOs Canelo, GGG is just too strong for Canelo, hes not a WW like the usual Canelo opponent.

Canelo is not trying to land jabs you idiot that's not his style. Look at the amount he throws and they throw. Now go look at the power punch stats from all these fights. That's canelos game make you miss then hit you with harder counter power shots at a much higher rate then you. That's why Lara RAN because of those power shots. If he stands and actually fights he would of been KOd. And when guys run from you what do you do? You punish them to the body. Khan was KOd because he was destroyed to the body and was so hurt by them that Canelo faked another body shot made him drop his hands and put his lights out with a right to the head. You must be a newbie if you don't know the value of power punches and are dismissing them.

Fact is these guys all threw hundreds and hundreds of ineffective jabs that they landed at such low rates career lows in amount and rates against Canelo for a reason. When you make a guy miss hundreds of jabs and land at 20% that Mayweather esche. So don't tell me these guys that are all better jabers and they barely hit Canelo with it but GGG is going to? Get the F outta here. GGG has a path to victory but it damn sure ain't with a jab. A moving jabbing GGG loses a boxing chess match to Canelo. there is only one man who was able to land any significant amount of jabs on Canelo and that is Floyd. Floyd landed almost more then Lara, Cotto, Khan combined at double the connect rate. GGG fights nothing like Floyd he ain't the defensive wizard who can stand in front of you make you miss. Everyone else not named floyd has struggled to land jabs on Canelo and the stats back that up. Canelo has neutralized better jabs then GGG.

[stefl14]

The funniest thing here is people who act as if GGG is just some no skill brawler. It just shows that very few here have boxed at a high level. I am an amateur with 84 fights who has competed for 11 years with 2 national quarter finals under my belt and let me tell you, no top amateur can't box. I have sparred with all sorts of amateurs, some considered brawlers and if need be, all of them can box at a high level once you get to the advanced stage. For example, one guy on the circuit who recently turned pro and was a fringe GB guy (and a guy I lost twice to despite stylistically being the 'boxer' between us) with a 92-14 record was considered a brawler by most of the national level guys, but let me tell you in the gym when you sparred this guy he could box as well as anybody. So imagine a few levels above that, which is what Golovkin was as an amateur. He had about 350 amateur fights and lost less than ten of them, winning an olympic silver. You don't do that without some serious boxing ability. Golovkin can box brilliantly, but he chooses his skills to go for the knockout and has adapted himself to the pro game to make him more marketable. Golovkin is is more skilled than Canelo, it's just that half of you can't see it because you think the only way to show skill is by barely throwing any punches and landing a good counter now and then. Canelo is good, but Golovkin handles him without too much trouble imo.