Why there's no great Western European boxers?

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  • Lester Tutor
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    #21
    Originally posted by lopetego
    Let's not forget the USSR's extensive tradition in amateur boxing, as one of the powerhouses in amateur boxing for decades.

    A ton of great fighters, ex-soviet countries like Ukraine, and even foreign countries like Cuba have benefited greatly from the soviet experience and technical prowess in amateur boxing.

    Cubans weren't jack **** in amateur in boxing, until the USSR send soviet trainers there, to teach them how to fight properly, as part of the close relationship both countries had during the cold war era.

    It's thanks to USSR, that Cuba is the amateur powerhouse it is currently. If the iron curtain had fell sooner and russians had been allowed to compete professionally since, let's say, the 50's or 60's, you can bet many of the legendary boxing champions from murica would be footnotes in history instead of legends.

    ¿For how long the HW championship of the world was nothing but the american championship in disguise? muricans conned the world for decades

    just like they currently do calling the murican baseball championship ¨the World Series¨
    What is this filth garbage propaganda you're spewing? Cuban boxing goes way back before their involvement with the soviets.

    Don't feel sad that American boxing is the defacto of prize fighting before Olympic boxing even came around.

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    • AddiX
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      #22
      A lot of these places just don't have active boxing programs or good trainers.

      Honestly a lot of it just comes down to that.

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      • bluzi
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        #23
        Sport isnt popular there , its not soccer which is world wide (aside from the US which doesnt play it) its not genes or whatever that dumb ass poster is writing above me ...
        Its like asking why western europe dont have great baseball players , they just dont , like americans dont have great soccer players or russian dont have rugby players ,.

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        • jmrf4435
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          #24
          Britian is considered western Europe buddy

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          • jmrf4435
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            #25
            Boxing is not that popular in 1st world wealthy nations like Germany and France. Wealthy individuals in general tend to steer clear of boxing, this is why you see so much higher participation rates in emerging economies or poor nations.

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            • SouthPawHitman
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              #26
              Originally posted by lopetego
              Let's get the facts right

              Eastern Europe ain't nothing special

              Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania,etc, those countries aren't jack **** in boxing, they're on the same level as western countries like France and Italy.

              only the ex-SOVIET nations like Ukraine, Chechnya, Kazakhztan and Russia are producing great fighters. there's a reason for that.The superior Rus' genes, and the mental and physical toughness that comes from having russian genes in your blood, even more if you have a soviet background, such as the Klitschkos.

              Even guys like GGG, a mixed race from an ex-soviet country, benefits from their russian heritage, GGG is what he is thanks to his mostly russian genes. he owes nothing to koreans, koreans are soft people who cant fight. specially south koreans

              So no, eastern euros aren't doing great, it's only russians. russians by heritage, ex-soviets if you want to call them that. It's only the descendants of the Rus', the strongest of all slavic people in history

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              • Quiksilva
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                #27
                Reason why America isn't producing any Western-European talents it's because majority of them are eating McDonalds.

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                • Dean_Razorback
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SouthPawHitman
                  that's messed up

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                  • lopetego
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                    What is this filth garbage propaganda you're spewing? Cuban boxing goes way back before their involvement with the soviets.

                    Don't feel sad that American boxing is the defacto of prize fighting before Olympic boxing even came around.
                    Cuba couldn't win **** in amateur boxing prior to the USSR's influence, they were a non entity at the Olympics and everything amateur related

                    Cuba had pro boxing before the Cuban revolution in 1959, then Castro took over and boxing was banned for years, until Castro decided to use the sport as a means of exhibiting the success of the socialist government, and winning medals in international tourneys became a priority

                    That's when the Soviet Union sent experienced trainers like Andrei Chervorenko (Teofilo stevenson's trainer) to help develop Cuban fighters for amateur boxing, because the entire boxing landscape in Cuba was in ruins after years of ban, and not suited for the amateur game

                    Cuba would have never been an amateur powerhouse or produced fighters like Rigondeaux without the Soviet influence
                    Last edited by lopetego; 06-14-2016, 03:35 PM.

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                    • M Bison
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 1hourRun
                      Ever heard of : Thurman, Charlo Bros, Vargas,The Garcias, Boo Boo,Wilder,Crawford,Spence,Santa Cruz,Caballero, Robert Easter Jr, Broner,Figeroa,the Benavidez Bros, Baby Miller?
                      Broner?
                      Now you're naming Mexicans in amongst it?
                      Plus the majority of those guys will likely get exposed for sheer size of America even IF they were all your own US talents it wouldn't be a lot.

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