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    So a lot of uneducated posters are trying to tell us that Wladimir Klitschko suddenly got old overnight or had an off night against Fury, most lean towards his punch output - 252 thrown over 12 rounds - as clear proof.

    That's an average of 21 shots per round.

    However, let's go look at some history from when Wlad was in his absolute prime, shall we?

    First up is the barnstormer, the hagler-hearns of heavyweights, the IBF & WBO unification of Klitschko vs Ibragimov. Yeah you know, the fight that turned HBO off heavyweight boxing for 3-4 years.Yup, that's the one.

    Wladimir Klitschko punch stats:

    348 shots fired over 12 rounds. That's 29 shots per round where 20-21 of those were jabs.

    Let's then move to another all time great fight, where Klitschko was faced with another guy that could move - Yet, in this fight he really shows how the Fury fight was a one off - Klitschko vs Chambers.

    Let's just have Manny Steward explain that one:



    Let's go to the Klitschko vs Haye fight.

    Klitschko threw a thunderous 133 power shots (11/round) and landed only a measly 29 power shots (2,4/round)

    That's not enough you say, Haye was running! Ok, let's go to the next example. I was one of the lucky few who went to see this fight live.

    Klitschko vs Thompson 2. The much anticipated rematch.

    Klitschko faced with an out of shape and dull opponent who was clearly not the same as he was the first time the two met, threw 121 shots over 6 rounds - That's even less than he threw against Fury!

    http://compuboxonline.com/compubox-s...ko-6-thompson/

    We have seen this tendency from Wlad at various points throughout his career, in his prime in fact.

    The difference between then and now is that wasn't in the ring with a small guy who had zero power, or a guy who wasn't willing to do fuk all. And he was not in there with a guy who could only go for 4-5 rounds.

    He was in with Tyson Fury. And that's why he lost.

    So please, let's put these embarrassing "I'm in denial" arguments to bed and focus on the truth, which is that Klitschko has looked OK against mostly overmatched and static opposition for a long long time.

  • #2
    You might be on to something. However, if Klitschko defeats Fury in the rematch, the first fight will be chalked up as an off night most likely or worse, a fluke. That's unfortunately the way it goes, Fury is going to have to win the rematch to convince everyone...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
      You might be on to something. However, if Klitschko defeats Fury in the rematch, the first fight will be chalked up as an off night most likely or worse, a fluke. That's unfortunately the way it goes, Fury is going to have to win the rematch to convince everyone...
      What if Klit wins in a dour jab and grab fest?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jedi Vader View Post
        What if Klit wins in a dour jab and grab fest?
        Then both fighters suck.

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        • #5
          Of course he didn't get old overnight.

          No one credible is backing that story.

          If you know boxing, and you watch the fight, Wlad looks sharp and in impeccable shape. The lack of punches had nothing to do with age, or being shot, or over the hill. Nothing.

          It's just a lazy cop-out for people who don't know boxing and don't know what they saw, or can't articulate it.

          It's actually hilarious to read.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
            You might be on to something. However, if Klitschko defeats Fury in the rematch, the first fight will be chalked up as an off night most likely or worse, a fluke. That's unfortunately the way it goes, Fury is going to have to win the rematch to convince everyone...
            Only people who DKSAB.

            No matter what happens in the second fight, it changes nothing about the first fight. It wasn't even a stoppage, you can see clear as day how Fury had him confused, gun shy, and a step behind the whole fight. If you can't see it, then you just have no idea what you are looking at. It's that simple.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
              Only people who DKSAB.

              No matter what happens in the second fight, it changes nothing about the first fight. It wasn't even a stoppage, you can see clear as day how Fury had him confused, gun shy, and a step behind the whole fight. If you can't see it, then you just have no idea what you are looking at. It's that simple.
              This is 100% true

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
                You might be on to something. However, if Klitschko defeats Fury in the rematch, the first fight will be chalked up as an off night most likely or worse, a fluke. That's unfortunately the way it goes, Fury is going to have to win the rematch to convince everyone...
                Fury won't get any credit if he beats/knocks Wlad out in the rematch.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                  So a lot of uneducated posters are trying to tell us that Wladimir Klitschko suddenly got old overnight or had an off night against Fury, most lean towards his punch output - 252 thrown over 12 rounds - as clear proof.

                  That's an average of 21 shots per round.

                  However, let's go look at some history from when Wlad was in his absolute prime, shall we?

                  First up is the barnstormer, the hagler-hearns of heavyweights, the IBF & WBO unification of Klitschko vs Ibragimov. Yeah you know, the fight that turned HBO off heavyweight boxing for 3-4 years.Yup, that's the one.

                  Wladimir Klitschko punch stats:

                  348 shots fired over 12 rounds. That's 29 shots per round where 20-21 of those were jabs.

                  Let's then move to another all time great fight, where Klitschko was faced with another guy that could move - Yet, in this fight he really shows how the Fury fight was a one off - Klitschko vs Chambers.

                  Let's just have Manny Steward explain that one:



                  Let's go to the Klitschko vs Haye fight.

                  Klitschko threw a thunderous 133 power shots (11/round) and landed only a measly 29 power shots (2,4/round)

                  That's not enough you say, Haye was running! Ok, let's go to the next example. I was one of the lucky few who went to see this fight live.

                  Klitschko vs Thompson 2. The much anticipated rematch.

                  Klitschko faced with an out of shape and dull opponent who was clearly not the same as he was the first time the two met, threw 121 shots over 6 rounds - That's even less than he threw against Fury!

                  http://compuboxonline.com/compubox-s...ko-6-thompson/

                  We have seen this tendency from Wlad at various points throughout his career, in his prime in fact.

                  The difference between then and now is that wasn't in the ring with a small guy who had zero power, or a guy who wasn't willing to do fuk all. And he was not in there with a guy who could only go for 4-5 rounds.

                  He was in with Tyson Fury. And that's why he lost.

                  So please, let's put these embarrassing "I'm in denial" arguments to bed and focus on the truth, which is that Klitschko has looked OK against mostly overmatched and static opposition for a long long time.
                  The argument is about when he threw his punches, there was nothing on them. 70 pro fights at 40 years old. Why is it impossible to believe?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post
                    Of course he didn't get old overnight.

                    No one credible is backing that story.

                    If you know boxing, and you watch the fight, Wlad looks sharp and in impeccable shape. The lack of punches had nothing to do with age, or being shot, or over the hill. Nothing.

                    It's just a lazy cop-out for people who don't know boxing and don't know what they saw, or can't articulate it.

                    It's actually hilarious to read.
                    I disagree. Watching him let his punches go and see absolutely nothing on them was a tall tell sign for me. The man is 40 with 70 professional fights and is a new father. It isn't hard to believe.

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