Comments Thread For: Arum on Lomachenko's Options: Salido, Vargas, Walters

[tiliheels]

Dude stop trolling with irrelevant comparisons. If you want proper reasons know that Top Rank was the reason why Garcia put down his gloves because of low balling figures. This is the DEFINITIVE reason why Floyd publicized the emphathy for Garcia because it's old school Arum revisited. Arum was the reason Chavez Jr. and Lil'G never fought because of manipulation of contract extensions. Arum's old school he doesn't realize these old tactics of dialogue doesn't work on newer generation fans. Instead we get fans that are lost and point to PBC with some failed straw man tactics

i dont agree with garcia..he was getting a side money to gamboa and he ducked it..bit himself into a pickle...he had a fair deal on the table

but in watlers case this dude is straight up trolling..
fair deals make fights..and as boxign fans we need to call a man out when he offers low numbers.

remember canelo told ggg like 1 million or something like that..ppl went nuts..it should have been teh same when lomo (who is not more accomplished than walters nor a bigger star) pulled the A side card..and then started offering side bets like he was the boss part 2

[Lester Tutor]

It works if you have enough leverage. If you have none, you end up marginalized and making way less. Nobody else in that division would scoff at 550k for a shot at Loma.

Here's an easier point of view. Do you think Walters fears losing if given the opportunity of a title shot? Who is Loma for Wlaters? He got that 0 from Salido. Walters would do the same to Martinez and get that WBO. It isn't a problem. Therefore, he doesn't need to bend or acknowledge HBO's low balling. All Walters needs is another title shot, unless you think Walters under performs and sucks..

[tiliheels]

Lomas got his very high contract minimum and he's asking for a very small bump for Walters, like 15%. Walters wants 3x his career high to fight Loma. 550k is pretty good for a guy in his position

idgaf wat he signed..he lost...ruslan got a showtime contract right? soon as he lost that contract was null...the man is talkin about retirement now

u mean to tell me the harvard grad that bob arum is didnt put a clause in the contract after 50 years of promoting fighters?

you're comment was a smack in the face to me..basically telling me to shut my ignorant butt up...but after this comment i hope you know you are not dealing with some ingnorant black fool.


do you know bob promised walters moremoney before the sosa fight..he told him your next fight will be the big fight with uchiyama and a large pay day??

u saw wat happened then right??

walters asking to have his p4p talents funded just like the guy with a loss on his resume...nothing more nothing less

[Lester Tutor]

i dont agree with garcia..he was getting a side money to gamboa and he ducked it..bit himself into a pickle...he had a fair deal on the table

but in watlers case this dude is straight up trolling..
fair deals make fights..and as boxign fans we need to call a man out when he offers low numbers.

remember canelo told ggg like 1 million or something like that..ppl went nuts..it should have been teh same when lomo (who is not more accomplished than walters nor a bigger star) pulled the A side card..and then started offering side bets like he was the boss part 2

I never dwellved into the negotiations or industry rumors for official purses between Gamboa and Garcia. I could only assume Arum hearing 50 Cent demands is a stretch for anything to happen.

[tiliheels]

Here's an easier point of view. Do you think Walters fears losing if given the opportunity of a title shot? Who is Loma for Wlaters? He got that 0 from Salido. Walters would do the same to Martinez and get that WBO. It isn't a problem. Therefore, he doesn't need to bend or acknowledge HBO's low balling. All Walters needs is another title shot, unless you think Walters under performs and sucks..

rocky sold his belt bc he knew he was washed up..one last nice pay day...

cant ask walters in the prime of his career to accept a farewell, this is all you get chck...and yess walters should be fightin lomo next or for a title..bc lomo will use his BS bogus title that really belongs to salido as leverage..i just see it now

[elgu]

i quit reading your argument when u compared a ppv star to a guy who doesnt have 1% of his fan base...

u have to be smarter than that...not only floyds fan base, but floyd accomplishments in boxing..u cannot negotiate on behalf of lomo using floyd as an example..and then tell walters hey u're nothing just like lomo, but u can only compare your sitation to nobodies..

money is coming from the air for lomo...even after a loss...so fighters dont understand that bc they see one guys is a infringement on the rules..and they say hey why him and not me...

so i blame that guy infringing on the norms..especially when he has already lost and the other guy is undefeated..and the only blemish to him is a BS draw..

i hope u can see where i am coming from bc im trying to be cool about this but it tics me off bc i know we are never seeign this fight, bc fighters dont like to be somebodyslave and their teams/agents wont allow them to be that for the most part.

Floyd didn't always have that fan base and he had to work hard for it the old fashion way fighting the tough guys until he had the fan base to break free from Arum. Walters doesn't have that fan base and as such will have to work for it or flee to the haven were fighting bums for big bucks is acceptable with Haymon. You seem a bit like a fan boy and i don't think i will reach you so i will stop having this discussion here. Real fight fans want the best against the best. Fanboys want the best for their fighter. The best thing is the best fighting the best and it's what will lead a boxer to maximize his earning capacity. Unless you like hype jobs like Berto, Broner, Juanma and Ortiz who earned the big bucks but sank when it was time to swim.

[tiliheels]

Here's an easier point of view. Do you think Walters fears losing if given the opportunity of a title shot? Who is Loma for Wlaters? He got that 0 from Salido. Walters would do the same to Martinez and get that WBO. It isn't a problem. Therefore, he doesn't need to bend or acknowledge HBO's low balling. All Walters needs is another title shot, unless you think Walters under performs and sucks..

they guy you replied to is so used to seeing fighters shoot down terrible offers...that he now knows the process that takes place upon that fighter by the powers that be....but he dont see how he's brainwashed lol...the powers to be have him locked and loaded to argue ******ity and their power ..instead of him pushing for good fights and the things that make good fights "FAIR DEALS"

[HeroBando]

Here's an easier point of view. Do you think Walters fears losing if given the opportunity of a title shot? Who is Loma for Wlaters? He got that 0 from Salido. Walters would do the same to Martinez and get that WBO. It isn't a problem. Therefore, he doesn't need to bend or acknowledge HBO's low balling. All Walters needs is another title shot, unless you think Walters under performs and sucks..

Then he should look forward to making 200k max on an undercard. Most top level Sfw fights pay less, and some of those guys bring more fans and better ratings than Walters

[LomaUsykKlichko]

idgaf wat he signed..he lost...ruslan got a showtime contract right? soon as he lost that contract was null...the man is talkin about retirement now

u mean to tell me the harvard grad that bob arum is didnt put a clause in the contract after 50 years of promoting fighters?

you're comment was a smack in the face to me..basically telling me to shut my ignorant butt up...but after this comment i hope you know you are not dealing with some ingnorant black fool.


do you know bob promised walters moremoney before the sosa fight..he told him your next fight will be the big fight with uchiyama and a large pay day??

u saw wat happened then right??

walters asking to have his p4p talents funded just like the guy with a loss on his resume...nothing more nothing less

Loma signed a new contract after beating Russell I think and that's where the 850k a fight minimum came from

[tiliheels]

Floyd didn't always have that fan base and he had to work hard for it the old fashion way fighting the tough guys until he had the fan base to break free from Arum. Walters doesn't have that fan base and as such will have to work for it or flee to the haven were fighting bums for big bucks is acceptable with Haymon. You seem a bit like a fan boy and i don't think i will reach you so i will stop having this discussion here. Real fight fans want the best against the best. Fanboys want the best for their fighter. The best thing is the best fighting the best and it's what will lead a boxer to maximize his earning capacity. Unless you like hype jobs like Berto, Broner, Juanma and Ortiz who earned the big bucks but sank when it was time to swim.

broner, ortiz, berto, juanma...the brought crowds...lomo doesnt do that..

walters didnt have the hard way? donaire wasnt a good fight for you? walters was just like floyd..pretty ducked..even at 130 u dont hear fighters calling for it do you..
and to say he wants haymon without knowing that makes me mad at you..bc u are generalizing him..that is BS u havent heard him say haymon once..all u heard him do is ask lomo,bob,hbo for even money..

look if bob doenst want to promote him with the same forcde that he wants to promote lomo..he should let him out of his contract...if u cannot agree with that then we dont have anything to talk about