Comments Thread For: Arum: HBO Must Find Money For Lomachenko, Or It's Off To PPV

[Eff Pandas]

That may be but I don't recall ever seeing HBO be so tight with their wallet as they have been this year.

Cuz their budget has gotten so low finally that they have to throw stuff on PPV to make it happen. I think they got like $30M-$35M at this point from most insiders I see talking about this type of ****. Thats $2.5M-$3M a month. You can't do much with that.

There budget was busted this time last year too if you go & look back. If you remember they had like 3 PPV's in the last quarter or so iirc. This year rumors suggest they are broke or accounted for for the rest of the year already too.

This isn't likely to change next year unless HBO decides HBO boxing is worth investing more money into which isn't an opinion they've held in over a decade. PBC or nah HBO has been making these decisions for their boxing arm & I don't know whats changed positively for HBO boxing to warrant them getting more money.

[Jsmooth9876]

I honestly don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Fighters fight for money, and they try to earn maximum they can.

But who's to say there's some objective amount of money required for them to fight?

What other options does Walters have? Go fight in China on a Chinese TV Channel in a fight fans will never ever see?

It's not as if there's some alternative universe all these money hungry fighters can go when they are not paid enough.

If Arum thinks his fighters will make more being on PPVs, that's what he should do.

I am hoping the days when Danny Garcia could fill Barclays centre fighting Rod Salka are gone. Boxing fans are becoming more literate and they can pay for a good product, but won't open up their wallets for mismatches.

Instead of complaining about HBO budgets Arum should move his fights to web only PPVs and sell them worldwide for like 10 bucks a show. When GGG was fighting Lemieux I wanted to donate some money toward this PPV, LOL. It sucks for international fans that they cannot influence the sport as much as US viewers.

Round these parts we call that "The Rigondeaux" 😂

[Cinci Champ]

No, it is a stand, thzts why they aren't oayng for loma walters, or Crawford Postol.

In the past they would of just overspent and destroyed there budget for fights that probably Wouldn't done anything special in the ratings department.

You know, like the days when they worked with Haymon?

Or how Showtime does it now with Haymon. Destroying your budget for some half assed ratings.

Yeah, hbo is moving away from that.

oh give me a break if u honestly believe this is haymons fault u are brainwashed by the anti pbc media who is paid for by ring magazine and hbo. taking a stand? hbo are lowering their budget which has literally nothing to do with haymon

[Cinci Champ]

Yea thats fair & I think probably correct. The UFC gots a PPV machine monthly churning out product & if you look a lil into their cards the strongest cards rarely got epic numbers. Its the big name main fight, headline heavy cards that have some of their biggest numbers.

I suppose this is a case of wanting to believe people would buy a more solid overall product more than thats actually the case. I think most people who are potential customers of a boxing PPV only know so many names & those few names are the names that make the decision to buy or not buy a PPV.

and the fact they absolutely rob their fighters blind. their ppv model is not give fighters near what they are worth

[Nightfall]

if HBO doesn't take care of lomachenko then his management will be in Al Haymon's office in the near future

[ironfriend]

Arums bluffing; After that Pac Bradley bomb he still smarting. Salido has a win over Lomo but he is done. If he goes ppv he needs Walters for Lomo and a stacked card. Mikey Garcia might want to get back at Arum by taking down his new star. I would pay for that or El terramoto!!

[paulf]

Is there a market for Lomachenko in America? I mean, Al Haymon aside, the market usually dictates what fighters are worth. Not Arum, not HBO.

GGG is so popular here for a euro fighter, but he has to beat some absolute A-list fighters before we can start talking about him being a star in the sport. Lomachenko isn't half as popular as GGG and hes in a much lower weight class... I don't see Arums argument.

[LA_2_Vegas]

Arum (used to) always do that- if HBO isn't paying or approving a fight he wants he goes out and does his own PPV. When he said a couple weeks ago that he wanted to pay Walters what he was asking then i figured he would try PPV. But all he really had was Pacquiao fights and who knows when he will fight again. Then then Cotto/JMM articles started popping up and I figured that might be the ppv he's talking about:

would something like this good enough?

Cotto-JMM
Lomachenko v Walters/Saldio II
Gilberto Ramirez v someone decent (or another championship fight, put yours in)
Verdejo vs a can

[CmdrSoCal]

No, it is a stand, thzts why they aren't oayng for loma walters, or Crawford Postol.

In the past they would of just overspent and destroyed there budget for fights that probably Wouldn't done anything special in the ratings department.

You know, like the days when they worked with Haymon?

Or how Showtime does it now with Haymon. Destroying your budget for some half assed ratings.

Yeah, hbo is moving away from that.

GGG, Kovalev, Ward, Gonzalez fighting bums for millions is an unwise use of company money imo. Klit-Fury worst fight ever does not help. They must know those repellent fights are losing money. Network heads will figure it out sooner or later. Dumb TV exec's are the only thing supporting crap boxing promoters and greedy, cowardly "champions" in the USA.

[CmdrSoCal]

I honestly don't understand what all the fuss is about.

Fighters fight for money, and they try to earn maximum they can.

But who's to say there's some objective amount of money required for them to fight?

What other options does Walters have? Go fight in China on a Chinese TV Channel in a fight fans will never ever see?

It's not as if there's some alternative universe all these money hungry fighters can go when they are not paid enough.

If Arum thinks his fighters will make more being on PPVs, that's what he should do.

I am hoping the days when Danny Garcia could fill Barclays centre fighting Rod Salka are gone. Boxing fans are becoming more literate and they can pay for a good product, but won't open up their wallets for mismatches.

Instead of complaining about HBO budgets Arum should move his fights to web only PPVs and sell them worldwide for like 10 bucks a show. When GGG was fighting Lemieux I wanted to donate some money toward this PPV, LOL. It sucks for international fans that they cannot influence the sport as much as US viewers.

Yeah there is no Boxnation internet streaming type service in the USA let alone international. Cable is for idiots. If there was more internet streaming for fights it would be huge. Fuock cable PPV garbage. Even you tube has PPV options to bad internet is not utilized by boxing.